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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:37 pm
by bitWISE
o'dium wrote:They just released the first download pack for GH2 on Live, and I have to say... Fuck them.
I wouldn't mind paying a few points, ya know, thats normal. But 500 points for THREE songs.
Pack 1: "Bark at the Moon," "Hey You," "Ace of Spades"
Pack 2: "Killer Queen," "Take it Off," "Frankenstein"
Pack 3: "Higher Ground," "Infected," "Stellar"
You cant just pick your song, either. Thats 1500 points for all three packs. Thats $100 for the entire GH1 song set (£70) if you want them all.
Thats fuckin stupid. No guitar, no manual, no disk, no box, and £20 more expensive...
What a jip! I thought downloadable content was cheaper than sticking it on a disk, yet here its more expensive...
If MS dont change this money grabbing pricing shite pretty soon Live is gonna go down the toilet...
And if you notice....each pack has one of three best songs so you can't just get Stellar, Killer Queen, and Bark at the Moon in one pack.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:41 pm
by o'dium
Jackal wrote:o'dium wrote:They just released the first download pack for GH2 on Live, and I have to say... Fuck them.
I wouldn't mind paying a few points, ya know, thats normal. But 500 points for THREE songs.
Pack 1: "Bark at the Moon," "Hey You," "Ace of Spades"
Pack 2: "Killer Queen," "Take it Off," "Frankenstein"
Pack 3: "Higher Ground," "Infected," "Stellar"
You cant just pick your song, either. Thats 1500 points for all three packs. Thats $100 for the entire GH1 song set (£70) if you want them all.
Thats fuckin stupid. No guitar, no manual, no disk, no box, and £20 more expensive...
What a jip! I thought downloadable content was cheaper than sticking it on a disk, yet here its more expensive...
If MS dont change this money grabbing pricing shite pretty soon Live is gonna go down the toilet...
Yes. Live will go down the toilet due to one game.
Instead of playing the cunt part you do so well, why don't you just use that melon for a bit. Theres already a massive uproar over these prices, because they really are crazy. Its giving MS bad points in the public eye. That, coupled with the Gears shite thats going on ATM, is making people see MS a little worse than they had done.
So either things change, or MS will really start to lose money. And we all know what that will lead to, even more cut backs.
So while it may seem like "one thing" to you, keep in mind this has happened before with Lumines and people boycotted MS for it. It all adds up in the end, and its not exactly painting the nice picture MS want of micro transactions is it?
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:51 pm
by SOAPboy
500 points.
3 songs
3 songs mind you, that are on a game i already own.
Fuck that. GUess ill use my live points on something else. Im not paying for GH1 again at full price, or hell, 100 fucking dollars in points for it..
Man. thats really fucking weak.. They were promising packs of 5 and 10 songs for 500-800 points. not 3 songs for 500 points..
Dicks :-\
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:54 pm
by MKJ
itll prolly drop in price later. like the oblivion addons.
however, if they start doing new songs, the price will go up because it takes them quite a while to record, mix, tune and tab a song.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:55 pm
by o'dium
MKJ wrote:itll prolly drop in price later. like the oblivion addons.
however, if they start doing new songs, the price will go up because it takes them quite a while to record, mix, tune and tab a song.
That I don't mind so much, ya know, new songs that are, well... NEW.
But stuff thats already available cheaper with more things else where is a tad retarded...
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:56 pm
by MKJ
aye. but still, paying like 4 bucks for 1 song is also quite expensive innit
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:29 pm
by Jackal
o'dium wrote:Jackal wrote:o'dium wrote:They just released the first download pack for GH2 on Live, and I have to say... Fuck them.
I wouldn't mind paying a few points, ya know, thats normal. But 500 points for THREE songs.
Pack 1: "Bark at the Moon," "Hey You," "Ace of Spades"
Pack 2: "Killer Queen," "Take it Off," "Frankenstein"
Pack 3: "Higher Ground," "Infected," "Stellar"
You cant just pick your song, either. Thats 1500 points for all three packs. Thats $100 for the entire GH1 song set (£70) if you want them all.
Thats fuckin stupid. No guitar, no manual, no disk, no box, and £20 more expensive...
What a jip! I thought downloadable content was cheaper than sticking it on a disk, yet here its more expensive...
If MS dont change this money grabbing pricing shite pretty soon Live is gonna go down the toilet...
Yes. Live will go down the toilet due to one game.
Instead of playing the cunt part you do so well, why don't you just use that melon for a bit. Theres already a massive uproar over these prices, because they really are crazy. Its giving MS bad points in the public eye. That, coupled with the Gears shite thats going on ATM, is making people see MS a little worse than they had done.
So either things change, or MS will really start to lose money. And we all know what that will lead to, even more cut backs.
So while it may seem like "one thing" to you, keep in mind this has happened before with Lumines and people boycotted MS for it. It all adds up in the end, and its not exactly painting the nice picture MS want of micro transactions is it?
Define "Massive uproar".
I agree with you that the songs are expensive but it's by no means enough to warrant an uproar.
Nothing like this is even going to put a dent in MS's image and it most certainly won't hurt their sales in the slightest. At worst people just won't buy these songs.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:38 pm
by dzjepp
Meh... I'd buy them if they where a dollar each
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:39 pm
by o'dium
Its also worth noting they are covers, not originals.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:52 pm
by dzjepp
But you know... I do think most of the DLC on Live for games is expensive and pointless, because if you buy a ton of it the cost adds up. I think MS holds everybody by the balls with these prices. It's like most companies don't have a say in what can be released and how (like Epic wanting to release free GoW maps and MS said 'fuck you').
I hope overall DLC for games is a big flop on Live, can't really say for sure but I'm hoping it is. Of course they won't release the big details on the numbers for downloadable content because if it is doing poorly they wouldn't want us to know.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:58 pm
by MKJ
o'dium wrote:Its also worth noting they are covers, not originals.
you dont know that
i mean, yea the current downloadable songs are covers, but who says they all will be?
there re already some originals in GH, not including the bonus tracks
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:00 pm
by o'dium
MKJ wrote:o'dium wrote:Its also worth noting they are covers, not originals.
you dont know that
i mean, yea the current downloadable songs are covers, but who says they all will be?
there re already some originals in GH, not including the bonus tracks
I WAS talking about the current ones dude, dunno about future ones.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:02 pm
by MKJ
i know. but your points were about downloadable songs in gerenal, right. that they were more expensive than an itunes song, but you cant burn them, can only be played through GH, etc
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:39 am
by Eraser
had my first GH2 experience today... errr... yesterday now.
Brilliant game. Can really understand anyone getting addicted to this.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:12 am
by MKJ
patch for GH2 btw. seems like the whammy problem was in the software, not the hardware
gg
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:16 am
by Geebs
o'dium wrote:you are getting 3 songs here for £4.50
To be fair, that's less than the price of a new set of guitar strings....
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:11 pm
by Eraser
MKJ wrote:patch for GH2 btw. seems like the whammy problem was in the software, not the hardware
gg
Apparantly the patch is causing even worse problems for some users:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75328
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:15 pm
by MKJ
ye, read it earlier today.
must suck to code for the 360
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:24 pm
by Eraser
I find it odd.
What exactly does the Ring of Death indicate? Is it always hardware failure? I'm surprised that a game patch would be able to cause hardware failure.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:37 pm
by o'dium
Eraser wrote:I find it odd.
What exactly does the Ring of Death indicate? Is it always hardware failure? I'm surprised that a game patch would be able to cause hardware failure.
The ring of death can mean anything from my 360 is fucked, to the wires at the back have come out.
Of course, as soon as some people see it once, they freak and get the unit replaced I bet... I've had it a few times, each time because my cable at the back wasn't connected after a clean up/move.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:43 pm
by MKJ
had it twice. once i restarted the machine, no problems.
second time it was properly fucked. burned out gpu.
i should be getting it back any day now - got a mail from MS saying it was shipped and should arrive within 2-5 days \o/
i needs to play the crackdown
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:37 pm
by dzjepp
omg you where without teh xbox for how long?
how did you cope sir
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:38 pm
by MKJ
for over a month now. sucks
and the UPS track-n-trace number they gave me doesnt seem to work. sucks more
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:44 pm
by o'dium
If it was withen one year why didn't you take it back to the shop? They have to replace it by LAW.
If it was a launch model, MS should fix it for free they said.
Which was it?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:47 pm
by MKJ
the latter, it went down a week after the initial year (
). MS replaced it for free, no questions asked. even came to my door to pick it up.
now im just waiting for the new console to be on my doorstep :icon32:
like i said, they sent me a mail last friday. the same mail also said they shipped it last tuesday though, so i wonder whats taking it. i'll be calling them somewhere this week if it still hasnt turned up - the incorrect UPS number is what worries me