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scared? wrote:I never had a dad...I am your god...bitch...

losCHUNK wrote:I tried batting you off...

losCHUNK wrote:
... I tried batting you off so you would'nt take a stray bullet and this is the thanks I get ?, you better pucker up...

If you're not willing to look past 1st hand accounts then there's seriously no point in continuing the convo and I might say you have a black and white attitude about the story. I bet some of your lineage has no 1st hand accounts to acknowledge their existence but that doesn't make them any less real though, just because they lived the quiet life with no reason for anyone to make note of unless they died the martyr to become popular. This was the story of Jesus in the bible (not that you should believe it). A lot of scumbags were referred to by anything but their name in them days n all (like labeling someone a Jew) and there's no way you can compare him to Socrates who was famous during his lifetime nor seen as a criminal.

There's also no way to explain the sudden explosion of Christian followers around the time of his death if you remove JC from the equation, St Pauls first writings were 20-30 years after his alleged death and Christianity was in full swing before this. People had to be hearing the same preachings St Paul had long before his conversion to Christianity because he did not become a follower until long after Jesus died, then somehow take the lead religion within a few generations despite it sounding exactly the same as every other, something had to act as a catalyst. This goes along with the Emperors (after he died, decades / centuries) only re enforcing his existence even though they saw the movement as a cult and were looking at every excuse to pull the religion apart and make it less popular.

^That prolly would have been a proper answer if you were looking for one, it's kind of what I've been saying toned down and draws similarities with the King Arthur 'myth' that I mentioned.

That's all it is pretty much and I don't think you should expect much more considering the timescales involved

GONNAFISTYA wrote:See...I don't know if you're bright enough to notice that I'm pointing out in "modern trendy internet lingo" the not-so-subtle differences in how you would accept evidence for different things.

LawL wrote:

losCHUNK wrote:I tried batting you off...

no homo?

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

losCHUNK wrote:
... I tried batting you off so you would'nt take a stray bullet and this is the thanks I get ?, you better pucker up...

If you're not willing to look past 1st hand accounts then there's seriously no point in continuing the convo and I might say you have a black and white attitude about the story. I bet some of your lineage has no 1st hand accounts to acknowledge their existence but that doesn't make them any less real though, just because they lived the quiet life with no reason for anyone to make note of unless they died the martyr to become popular. This was the story of Jesus in the bible (not that you should believe it). A lot of scumbags were referred to by anything but their name in them days n all (like labeling someone a Jew) and there's no way you can compare him to Socrates who was famous during his lifetime nor seen as a criminal.

There's also no way to explain the sudden explosion of Christian followers around the time of his death if you remove JC from the equation, St Pauls first writings were 20-30 years after his alleged death and Christianity was in full swing before this. People had to be hearing the same preachings St Paul had long before his conversion to Christianity because he did not become a follower until long after Jesus died, then somehow take the lead religion within a few generations despite it sounding exactly the same as every other, something had to act as a catalyst. This goes along with the Emperors (after he died, decades / centuries) only re enforcing his existence even though they saw the movement as a cult and were looking at every excuse to pull the religion apart and make it less popular.

^That prolly would have been a proper answer if you were looking for one, it's kind of what I've been saying toned down and draws similarities with the King Arthur 'myth' that I mentioned.

That's all it is pretty much and I don't think you should expect much more considering the timescales involved

If you love Jesus so much why don't you marry him?

losCHUNK wrote:He died, don't you remember ?

Captain Mazda wrote:Did he?

scared? wrote:u have respect for a make believe person but not ishtar...from which the holiday originated? total moron!...

scared? wrote:Why the eggs and bunny for a Christian holiday chumbo? Ishtar...god of sex and fertility...

scared? wrote:And your point?...

seremtan wrote:i don't doubt that Easter is just a rebranded pagan festival but this Ishtar thing is just amusing

English: Easter
French: de Pâques
Spanish: Pascua
Icelandic: Páskar
Dutch: Pasen
Greek: Πάσχα

i guess the Icelandic word for Ishtar must be different