Re: so this missing plane thing
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:09 pm
Wow, they should do "research" like that more often.SoM wrote:the black box should be enclosed in a nuclear flask (smaller version) like they tested in 1984Eraser wrote:I'm wondering, why is this black box not equipped to float on water and broadcast its location to a sattelite (hell, why isn't black box data streamed to a remote storage in real time?
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yes, because every plane needs more weightSoM wrote:the black box should be enclosed in a nuclear flask (smaller version) like they tested in 1984
SourceMalaysia Airlines MH370: Thai satellite finds 300 floating objects in search for missing plane
I've wondered this also. Would it really be that expensive to have the data streamed?Eraser wrote:I'm wondering, why is this black box not equipped to float on water and broadcast its location to a sattelite (hell, why isn't black box data streamed to a remote storage in real time?
Yes, it would. It's the same reason why the Rolls-Royce engines have options for live streaming data or merely periodic "ping" packets to say "yeah, I'm still on, fuck off"vileliquid1026 wrote:I've wondered this also. Would it really be that expensive to have the data streamed?Eraser wrote:I'm wondering, why is this black box not equipped to float on water and broadcast its location to a sattelite (hell, why isn't black box data streamed to a remote storage in real time?
JAFT?scared? wrote:Just shipping containers obviously...
So what exactly would make it so expensive then? If everyone can have a smartphone that checks in with the interweb every 10 seconds why can't planes have something similar?mrd wrote:Yes, it would. It's the same reason why the Rolls-Royce engines have options for live streaming data or merely periodic "ping" packets to say "yeah, I'm still on, fuck off"
New search area?Malaysia Airlines MH370: Australian, NZ aircraft spot multiple objects in new search area.
Most likely has to do with the fact that phone companies' entire mantra is communications, thus they can buy bulk satellite bandwidth (and/or they own their own satellite networks) and get price cuts. Rolls-Royce is not primarily in the business of communications and any satellite links they buy and pass on to their customers are probably at a much higher price-point. It's not really an issue of technical feasibility. Sure, every plane on the planet could be sending streaming data 24/7 back to air-control and back to the engine manufacturer in theory, and they probably should in all honesty. But money talks, not safety. Imagine how many sensors are on a even a single airplane... if you were to have a real-time stream or even a once a minute packet of all that data from every plane on the planet, that's a pretty massive shit ton of data, most of which is totally redundant because, 99.9% of the time, planes have zero issues.Ryoki wrote:So what exactly would make it so expensive then? If everyone can have a smartphone that checks in with the interweb every 10 seconds why can't planes have something similar?mrd wrote:Yes, it would. It's the same reason why the Rolls-Royce engines have options for live streaming data or merely periodic "ping" packets to say "yeah, I'm still on, fuck off"
Interesting too. Click on a plane icon and see some detail and flight path (so far completed).Transient wrote:Oh shit, that's a lot of fucking planes.
SourceSearch teams have begun using towed pinger locators to hunt for the black box of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
Two ships with the locator capabilities will search a 240km (150 mile) underwater path, in the hope of recovering the plane's data recorder.
Up to 14 planes and nine ships will also search for MH370 on Friday.
It disappeared on 8 March en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It was carrying 239 people.