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Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:40 am
by dubz
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Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:05 am
by seremtan
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:except trump isnt going to win
no, he isn't, but then Trump only gets one shot. Syriza, Podemos, Front National, AfD, Jobbik, Jeremy Corbyn, Sweden Democrats, Five Star Movement, Austrian Freedom Party, Geert Wilders etc all get as many go's at power as they need. Brexit only needed one shot
Trump doesn't need to win
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:06 am
by seremtan
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Not sure what scared posted but was it about how his hero Alex Jones turned out to be a shill for Trump this year? HAHAHAHAHA!
actually, he was agreeing with you about Drumpf's chances at the Weisshaus
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:17 am
by Ryoki
Memphis wrote:lol
Really? You might be in an echo chambery information bubble there, mate - he's done. Finished. It's over, and what's more; it's going to be a landslide victory for Hillary. Look at the early voting results in Florida and the trends over the years and what that might mean. Hell, look at any sort of serious statistics - there's red states that are totally in play, etc.
Or simply consider this little fact; he's lost women. You know, those mysterious creatures that make up about 50% of voters.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:56 am
by Don Carlos
Ryoki wrote:Memphis wrote:lol
Really? You might be in an echo chambery information bubble there, mate - he's done. Finished. It's over, and what's more; it's going to be a landslide victory for Hillary. Look at the early voting results in Florida and the trends over the years and what that might mean. Hell, look at any sort of serious statistics - there's red states that are totally in play, etc.
Or simply consider this little fact; he's lost women. You know, those mysterious creatures that make up about 50% of voters.
He will get them back by Grabbing them right by the pussy
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:05 am
by dubz
ive read at least ten different interpretations/predictions based on the florida numbers that can suite either narative of trump wining/losing... The clinton campaign is literaly redacting all the presidental race coverage of the big media, and the polls are all rigged by oversampling certain demographics.. you can read this in the emails of her campaign people, how they remind themselves that all polls are off by 5 points in hillarys favor.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:15 am
by Ryoki
I'm not of the opinion that pollsters are all a bunch of partisan hacks or that the majority of them is somehow 'rigged' - it's a vague art for sure and there's polls out there that are just unscientific as hell, but surely most of the pollsters want to be right with their predictions in the end, not wrong. But yeah, polling is hard, and everyone has their own system. Mistakes get made.
As for Florida, from what i understand traditionally GOP voters have a big bump during the first two weeks of early voting, the dems tend to catch up after that. That classic early GOP bump hasn't happened this time at all, which would point to a tremendous dem win. This is a crazy election cycle though, so who knows what might happen.
In other news:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/t ... ing-230315
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:52 am
by dubz
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:00 am
by Ryoki
Ok, great.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:25 am
by dubz
Ryoki wrote:..surely most of the pollsters want to be right with their predictions in the end, not wrong.
replace pollsters with media and tell me you dont agree that would be just whishful thinking
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:37 am
by Ryoki
I could also replace it with the word 'pelicans', but the purpose escapes me. Pollsters are in the long term prediction business, media is in the reporting factoids business.
...seem to be missing your point here?
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:36 am
by plained
in this town most everybody says trump win
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:56 am
by seremtan
dubz wrote:http://imgur.com/a/zv174
Wikileaks could release evidence that HRC gave Satan a rimjob while fucking a corpse in the ass with a strapon and it wouldn't make any difference at this point
TRUMP = STUMPED
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:54 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
I started this thread long before it was even clear that Trump would be the republican nominee. I thought he had a chance but it's now very clear that he is going to lose. We'll all get to see for sure in 2 weeks I guess.
Ryoki summed it up pretty well. Not sure how people here (or anywhere) figure he'll win when he's clearly not going to get much of the woman (or black or latino) vote.
As for Hillary, I find her to be a vile, corrupt, warmongering, liar. I wouldn't vote for either of those two in a million years. Too bad Americunts think they have no other options.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:05 pm
by scared?
Lol foreigners...
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Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:17 pm
by shaft
Is Memphis going to attempt suicide when Trump loses or just harass a few extra women on the internet to ease the pain?
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:54 pm
by losCHUNK
I too think Billary is a dead cert for a win however from what ive seen in the political landscape in Europe it really wouldn't surprise me to see Trump get close. Brexit is obviously the stand out but if Trump couldve made himself even slightly reputable by educating himself on some policies and sound like he knows what hes talking about he'd be in for a decent chance. People have had enough of experts, apparently.
As for polls, they meant fuck all in the UK general election.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:13 pm
by xer0s
Well that's the thing. When they do these polls, they're asking these people over the phone, while they're sitting at home. On Election Day, you actually have to get up off your ass and go to the booth. And the fact is, Republicans historically are the ones that get out and actually vote when it matters and the left usually has less of a turnout. So the polls you're seeing now really may not represent the results on November 8th. And the margin of error is still small enough to make it a very tight race. It's scary.
Again, I hate both Trump and Clinton...
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:14 pm
by xer0s
scared? wrote:Lol foreigners...
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lol, nice icon, pooron...
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:20 pm
by seremtan
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:As for Hillary, I find her to be a vile, corrupt, warmongering, liar. I wouldn't vote for either of those two in a million years. Too bad Americunts think they have no other options.
this
it's been an 18 month long shitshow of truly epic proportions that will go down in legend but not in a good way
also, i read the other day that China is looking at this thinking: if this is what democracy looks like, then fuck that noise
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:21 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
xer0s wrote:Well that's the thing. When they do these polls, they're asking these people over the phone, while they're sitting at home. On Election Day, you actually have to get up off your ass and go to the booth. And the fact is, Republicans historically are the ones that get out and actually vote when it matters and the left usually has less of a turnout. So the polls you're seeing now really may not represent the results on November 8th. And the margin of error is still small enough to make it a very tight race. It's scary.
Again, I hate both Trump and Clinton...
Usually the Republicans have a well organized ground game but that's not the case this year. The Democrats have a strong and well organized get out the vote effort and there will be many voters who are highly motivated to stop Trump from being elected.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/tru ... e-problem/
As the presidential election marathon breaks into a final sprint, the Trump campaign faces a jaw-dropping gap in the ground game: Hillary Clinton currently has more than three times the number of campaign offices in critical states than does Donald Trump. Those figures include both Trump offices and Republican National Committee victory offices, as confirmed by the Trump campaign.
The contrast is a test for the conventional campaign model and points to the candidates’ stark differences in methods. Clinton is cleaving to the data-driven, on-the-ground machine that won two elections for Barack Obama. Trump, on the other hand, insists he does not need traditional campaign tactics to win the election, pointing to his overwhelming nomination victory achieved with a relatively small team and little spending.
Nevertheless, the ground game is poised to be critical in 2016. Undecided voters are becoming scarce, and targeted turnout may be the deciding factor on Nov. 8. That usually requires field offices with phone banks, organized volunteers and a coordinated effort to knock on doors and get people to the polls.
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Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:27 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
I invite any of the (couple?) Trump supporters here to list the things that will make Trump a good president.
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:30 pm
by xer0s
plained...
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:44 pm
by seremtan
yes, we get it: Trump is the channel for a backlash against global capitalism and the elites who profit from it
if you support this backlash (and there are good reasons for doing so, assuming you care about democracy) then Drumpf is the nightmare candidate: the guy whose antics help to de-legtimise that very backlash and allow all the Shillarys and neoliberal arsewipes to paint the whole thing as "rage" or "racism" or "the last hurrah of the white male" or whatever
Re: President Trump
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:47 pm
by seremtan