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xer0s wrote:

Transient wrote:It's probably going to become a part of the common cold...

I seen people say this. Along the lines of, this will be like the flu, we’ll have it every year. But I haven’t seen any experts saying this. Do you have any legitimate sources for this claim?

I don't doubt this could be true, but what bothers me is that by saying that, people downgrade the virus like it's an ordinary flu that you won't have anything to worry about of you're in decently good health.
Right now people are dying of COVID-19 who most likely wouldn't have died of an ordinary seasonal flu. That might happen 2 years from now as well.
Personally, I don't want to catch COVID-19 ever. Not now, not 10 years from now when it might just hospitalize an insignificant fraction of the people it does now.

I was only going off news articles I read months ago when less was known about the virus. As I recall, supposedly the virus will continue to mutate and get more contagious but less deadly over time. That's not meant to downplay the severity; if anything, it means it will be worse since it'll never really go away and will continue to kill people year over year. Considering Covid-19 seems to have some potentially severe long-term or permanent effects on the body after you recover (lung scarring, heart weakening), that could really suck.

So you don’t have any legitimate sources...

I don't have any sources, period, that I can be bothered to Google. It's from like 6 months ago, I don't know where I read it anymore, LOL.

This is a good thing!

Transient wrote:I was only going off news articles I read months ago when less was known about the virus. As I recall, supposedly the virus will continue to mutate and get more contagious but less deadly over time.

While I agree with the first part of this, that the virus will continue to mutate, I can't see there being any logical reason to assume that more mutations means it will get less deadly.

Virii don't get "diluted" the more of them there are :tard:

If anything, it will become more deadly, simply because we will have to try and keep up and develop new treatments for each variant. For existing examples, see multiple drug resistant bacterias and virii that have reared their ugly heads in recent years.

Well the more people who have it, the more people will die from it. So in that sense, it's gonna be deadlier just by sheer volume.

But in general if a virus mutates to kill its host easier, then it has less of a chance of being passed on to other hosts since the sicker a person is, the less likely they are to be out and about, infecting others. So people with weaker strains of the virus who are out going to work are more likely to pass that version on to others than if they were laid up in bed at home.

But I'm not an immunologist, I just play one on the internet. :owned:

Mat Linnett wrote:While I agree with the first part of this, that the virus will continue to mutate, I can't see there being any logical reason to assume that more mutations means it will get less deadly.

Virii don't get "diluted" the more of them there are :tard:

If anything, it will become more deadly, simply because we will have to try and keep up and develop new treatments for each variant. For existing examples, see multiple drug resistant bacterias and virii that have reared their ugly heads in recent years.

uh, the common cold is a coronavirus that has mutated into something less harmful because that's the best path to long-term survival as a species. more virulent covids = quarantines and lockdowns = an early extinction for that form of virus

the only question is: will the necessary mutations occur in Covid-19 to create a path to being less harmful like the common cold, or will it go out in a blaze of glory, or will it get thrown into horny jail like smallpox and spend the rest of its existence in a glass vial in sub-zero temperatures?

Ebola couldn't wide-spread because it killed the hosts too quickly.
So, if there get to come up more deadly strains of Covid-19 they will have a higher chance of being eliminated early on. Either now by ways of vaccination or later by their own way of killing hosts too fast.

seremtan wrote:uh, the common cold is a coronavirus that has mutated into something less harmful because that's the best path to long-term survival as a species.

The common cold is an Influenza-Virus. Not part of the Corona-family, afaik.
Viruses don't think though. They are not aware of their species. They don't have a natural drive for reproduction.
They just mutate and the mutation that fits the situation best is going to stay and keep on mutating.
There are thousands of viruses around us everytime. A lot of them just don't affect the human race as it stands right now.

Ferrao10 wrote:

seremtan wrote:uh, the common cold is a coronavirus that has mutated into something less harmful because that's the best path to long-term survival as a species.

The common cold is an Influenza-Virus. Not part of the Corona-family, afaik.

Wrong, common cold is a coronavirus.

Ferrao10 wrote:Viruses don't think though. They are not aware of their species. They don't have a natural drive for reproduction.
They just mutate and the mutation that fits the situation best is going to stay and keep on mutating.

that's what i said

Captain Mazda wrote:Wrong, common cold is a coronavirus.

Actually it's both. There are multiple viruses involved. Rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, parainfluenza viruses and adenoviruses. There are like 200 different specific viruses it could be.
https://www.healthline.com/health/commo ... onaviruses

I scanned some pages for interest and stumbled across this alternate site..

Worldwide Corona Virus Cases:

11 Dec 70,711,368

18 Dec 74,928,265

29 Dec 81,651,939

Total deaths
• World 1,780,850
• USA 343,072
• Brazil 191,641
• India 148,190

Source

Whiskey 7 wrote:I scanned some pages for interest and stumbled across this alternate site..

Worldwide Corona Virus Cases:

11 Dec 70,711,368

18 Dec 74,928,265

29 Dec 81,651,939

Total deaths
• World 1,780,850
• USA 343,072
• Brazil 191,641
• India 148,190

Source

You were linking to that first URL earlier in this thread :paranoid:

Whiskey is slip’n. Could be Alzheimer’s...

If Whiskey ever stops posting here, the average age drops about 15 years.

Don Carlos wrote:You were linking to that first URL earlier in this thread :paranoid:

Correct I just checked the previous page and it is there as Source #2 so thank you
My bad.... I haven't heard or used that term in ages.

Eraser wrote:If Whiskey ever stops posting here, the average age drops about 15 years.

.... and the IQ will fall dramatically

:olo:

I don't doubt that.

A week passes...

Worldwide Corona Virus Cases:

18 Dec 74,928,265

29 Dec 81,651,939

6 Jan 2021 86,868,467

Total deaths
• World 1,876,803
• USA 365,664
• Brazil 197,777
• India 150,151

Source

Bolsonaro just called the virus "the best vaccine against the virus"

*checks Brazil deaths*

:dork:

He's not wrong. Either you survive and have anti bodies, or you die and you're no longer suffering from it. Or anything, for that matter.

However, the antibodies don't appear to be permanent which is why people are getting this thing more than once. I personally know of someone in their 20's who now has it twice...Floriduh

It's not about antibodies it's about T cell memory. People catch the flu more than once remember.