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push press on a smith machine.. no.

andyman wrote:push press on a smith machine.. no.

Who said anything about a push press in a smith machine? The smith machine is perfect for military presses, especially when you're breaking the motion down to its constituent parts to practice a weak portion of the lift. He's trying to increase his push press, and practicing portions of the lift under control, as you would in a smith, is ideal.

That being said, I've seen your picture, you'd still gain muscle on smith push press, you don't have the mass one needs to be picky about their lifts.

golden showers? at a beach party last saturday, I was motherfuckingwasted but it was class


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Dropped another 2 pounds in 24 hours...this shit is easy...

Put one of the babies down?

My maintence weight is fucking about 500-800 calories higher than most ppl my size. Satan has blessed me with a unique ability to eat massive amounts of food without gaining weight...u mad?...

it's a good thing human survival wasn't dependent on your wasteful genetics

scared? wrote:My maintence weight is fucking about 500-800 calories higher than most ppl my size. Satan has blessed me with a unique ability to eat massive amounts of food without gaining weight...u mad?...

No wonder you're so tiny.

0psys wrote:

andyman wrote:push press on a smith machine.. no.

Who said anything about a push press in a smith machine? The smith machine is perfect for military presses, especially when you're breaking the motion down to its constituent parts to practice a weak portion of the lift. He's trying to increase his push press, and practicing portions of the lift under control, as you would in a smith, is ideal.

That being said, I've seen your picture, you'd still gain muscle on smith push press, you don't have the mass one needs to be picky about their lifts.

read your original post dude

"If you want to increase your push press then it's all about taking the lift over to the smith machine where you can break the lift down into portions and figure out where you're weakest."

What part are you having trouble with? The smith is where you break a movement down to target lagging portions of the lift. Just as the above quote explains. The part that says "portions" is very important, because it specifically states in that single word that I'm not talking about performing the original exercise, but that I'm breaking it down into phases and reproducing single elements into a smith exercise. One would be seated during this. They wouldn't be pushing, either, they'd be pressing. Again, it's about breaking down the exercise. Most people are weak push=pressers in the six inches above their head. That's prime territory for the smith.

When I last trained seriously, and I was deadlifting (ie. over 500lbs), I used to perform partials on the smith machine because it allowed me absolute control during the top phase of the lift. That in turn helped me to increase my overall deadlift by strengthening the area in which I was weakest. ie. locking out.

So praise be the the smith, a machine shunned by intermediate gym users who think they know better, but revered by real lifters who know that there's no such thing as a bad piece of equipment.

Somebody ban this opsys moron please...

Don't pretend you don't completely agree with me. I was using you as an example of a real man the other day in reference to you posting a shot of your new born. Don't make me take it back.

I stopped reading ur post after the first few words...much too long for this type of thread... Narcissistic much?...

i kinda started working out again

i dont do max lifts because its always the same story with me, my muscles can lift whatever i give them, unfortunately my joints and tendons and shit just tears right off

i'm already 90 % strong as i am able to get so i go for volume and conditioning

scared? wrote:I stopped reading ur post after the first few words...much too long for this type of thread... Narcissistic much?...

head on the nail. ouch.

plained wrote:i kinda started working out again

i dont do max lifts because its always the same story with me, my muscles can lift whatever i give them, unfortunately my joints and tendons and shit just tears right off

i'm already 90 % strong as i am able to get so i go for volume and conditioning

There's quite a lot of useful supplements for joints and tendons, have you tried any?

scared? wrote:I stopped reading ur post after the first few words...much too long for this type of thread... Narcissistic much?...

You missed out on an awesome post. I just read it again and realised I'd temporarily forgotten how awesome the smith is for shoulders.

fuck u...

0psys wrote:"If you want to increase your push press then it's all about taking the lift over to the smith machine where you can break the lift down into portions and figure out where you're weakest."

What part are you having trouble with? The smith is where you break a movement down to target lagging portions of the lift. Just as the above quote explains. The part that says "portions" is very important, because it specifically states in that single word that I'm not talking about performing the original exercise, but that I'm breaking it down into phases and reproducing single elements into a smith exercise. One would be seated during this. They wouldn't be pushing, either, they'd be pressing. Again, it's about breaking down the exercise. Most people are weak push=pressers in the six inches above their head. That's prime territory for the smith.

When I last trained seriously, and I was deadlifting (ie. over 500lbs), I used to perform partials on the smith machine because it allowed me absolute control during the top phase of the lift. That in turn helped me to increase my overall deadlift by strengthening the area in which I was weakest. ie. locking out.

So praise be the the smith, a machine shunned by intermediate gym users who think they know better, but revered by real lifters who know that there's no such thing as a bad piece of equipment.

So what's the correlation between your old deadlift and your push press machine? Or was that just fluff?

So I decided to start running yesterday, what with having an 11 mile run in 4 weeks time. Managed 5k in 27 minutes and today my knees are destroyed (well, hurting anyway). I have wolfed down some good cod liver oil and done some stretches (something I didn't do after my run...naughty) and they are starting to ease a little (due to the streches I guess)

Any tips for breathing when running as I always seem to breath really shallowly and quickly which I know is not good at all...I need to train myself to breath deeply and slowly, but how?

I would start by breathing deeply and slowly, then work from there.

andyman wrote:

0psys wrote:"If you want to increase your push press then it's all about taking the lift over to the smith machine where you can break the lift down into portions and figure out where you're weakest."

What part are you having trouble with? The smith is where you break a movement down to target lagging portions of the lift. Just as the above quote explains. The part that says "portions" is very important, because it specifically states in that single word that I'm not talking about performing the original exercise, but that I'm breaking it down into phases and reproducing single elements into a smith exercise. One would be seated during this. They wouldn't be pushing, either, they'd be pressing. Again, it's about breaking down the exercise. Most people are weak push=pressers in the six inches above their head. That's prime territory for the smith.

When I last trained seriously, and I was deadlifting (ie. over 500lbs), I used to perform partials on the smith machine because it allowed me absolute control during the top phase of the lift. That in turn helped me to increase my overall deadlift by strengthening the area in which I was weakest. ie. locking out.

So praise be the the smith, a machine shunned by intermediate gym users who think they know better, but revered by real lifters who know that there's no such thing as a bad piece of equipment.

So what's the correlation between your old deadlift and your push press machine? Or was that just fluff?

haha, yeah, kind of, I guess. Really I was just trying to illustrate that it's a really useful machine.

oops double post

Fuck u...