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Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:01 pm
by YourGrandpa
The (3) Black Wires should have phase tape on them (Red/Blue/white). If they were not taped it's hard to say for sure what is there. Though judging by the number of conductors you could have 240 volt capable wiring there. (1) Black is a circuit, (1) black is another circuit, (1) black is a neutral and the green is the ground. If that is the case you could use the wiring for (2) 120 volt circuits. Try checking your break panel for the same wires and see how they are terminated.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:05 pm
by seremtan
the one chance gramps gets to shine, and it's explaining DIY to a texan house husband...lol...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:07 pm
by YourGrandpa
Take notes old man, I'm only doing this once.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:14 pm
by scared?
It's 120 jack ass...is the gcfi confusing u?...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:24 pm
by scared?
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So about the railing...I'm thinking leaving corner posts and cutting of inch and half at the bottom to fit on top of plate and have them going neatly into new wall...good idea?...of course it is...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:38 pm
by YourGrandpa
scared? wrote:It's 120 jack ass...is the gcfi confusing u?...
Four wires (3) Blacks and (1) Ground doesn't equal GFCI. But you did say you nothing about electrical and you seem eager to prove it. For your children's sake I hope you don't burn the house down. GLHF.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:41 pm
by scared?
im saying the paper work/receipt for hot tub said 120...the guy who bought it who is a builder also said it...u sure u know what the fuck ur talking about?...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:43 pm
by YourGrandpa
scared? wrote:Image

So about the railing...I'm thinking leaving corner posts and cutting of inch and half at the bottom to fit on top of plate and have them going neatly into new wall...good idea?...of course it is...
I can't picture exactly what you're planning to do by the description. But it sounds like you want to build the wall around the railing. I'm curious as to how that's going to work with all the other wall studs.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:49 pm
by YourGrandpa
scared? wrote:im saying the paper work/receipt for hot tub said 120...the guy who bought it who is a builder also said it...u sure u know what the fuck ur talking about?...
The tub could have been 120/240. The wall outlet could have been wired for 120. However, you have too many wire at the outlet to completely rule out 240 volts. Since the wires are also not identified correctly that only poses more possible problems. That's why I said you should go to the panel and see if you can identify how the wire are terminated.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:50 pm
by plained
240 can only use heavier gauge wire here

r the wire thicker than regular?

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:51 pm
by scared?
the outlet was specifically added for the hot tub which was set up 120...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:52 pm
by plained
perfect no probs then

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:53 pm
by scared?
no i am cutting rail that is parallel to new wall. im gonna leave corner posts but cut 1-2" of so i can slide bottom plate under and then attach post to top of plate...got it?...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:55 pm
by scared?
actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:55 pm
by scared?
i don't wanna die!...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:56 pm
by plained
use a meter?

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:59 pm
by plained
if ur uncomfortable , just use an inulated plyer and put a marette on any exposed wire to aviod kid troble and let someone electrical check it out

where rubber boots and dont touch the rail or anything or the plyer metal iether heh

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:02 pm
by shaft
scared? wrote:actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...
Take a picture and post it on an internet forum?

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:12 pm
by SoM
i'm not familiar with US regulations for electrical stuff, but it must be a #10 wire for 30amps

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:37 pm
by scared?
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Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:48 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
scared? wrote:Image
lol this pict needs some hick with 3 good teeth in a straw hat widdlin' a turnip...or sumthin'

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:50 pm
by scared?
no hick has ever been close to palm, pear and peach tree at the same time so no u...

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:19 pm
by plained
looks 240 to me :shrug:

keep in mind i am not an electrician...

SoM will know

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:25 pm
by 4days
scared? wrote:actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...
lick it - 240 will make your tongue tingle. if the outlet is too close to the ground and you don't want to have to kneel down, get one of the kids to do it.

Re: Car port conversion...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:43 pm
by SoM
240 for sure, but hell that's alot of wire, texas lol