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Hannibal wrote:Well, I am on a mission to become an 'expert' on (modern) ID theory since this issue is now pissing me off to no end.

I believe michael behe is considered one of the primary proponents.

You might also find this page useful:

http://www.evcforum.net/

the forums are excellent, though it seems they've switched to yahoo groups
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http://www.evcforum.net/WebPages/DiscussionBoards.html

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/evolutionv ... gentdesign

God I hate people sometimes.

Don't feel bad.....Kracus hates people all the time.

y'know giving this some thought(.5 sec) i see far more sighns of de'evolution in a way

sys0p wrote:I always thought, if evolution is a fact, how come there aren't loads of half evolved things running around? Does it not work like that?

Look around at the human race at all ? I dont know, when i look around i see many things still very unevolved or maybe a better angle is "still have much evolution to go". If you mean like goo balls with legs it probably cause this planet is well beyond its primordial evolutionary path.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Don't feel bad.....Kracus hates people all the time.

That's just because the people he knows are too poor or wanted by the police and can't afford to buy vacation packages from him.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH what a load of bullshit

http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_adaption.htm

As an aside: I know atleast 3 people who were not born with wisdom teeth. My girlfriend, my mom, and myself all had our wisdom teeth taken out so I wonder if maybe my kids wont have them. That would own. I think if we were more selective in our mating we would have evolved WAY more than we have.

bitWISE wrote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAH what a load of bullshit

http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_adaption.htm

As an aside: I know atleast 3 people who were not born with wisdom teeth. My girlfriend, my mom, and myself all had our wisdom teeth taken out so I wonder if maybe my kids wont have them. That would own. I think if we were more selective in our mating we would have evolved WAY more than we have.

Yes...we are seeing that happen.

I thought it would be interesting to examine the prevelance of wisdom teeth in populations that have never been introduced to modern dentistry (i.e. tribes in the deep jungle, the Brits, etc.) vs. those that have. Perhaps, and this is just a hypothesis, we might see a difference. For example, lets say that having wisdom teeth imparts some sort of selective advantage or, more likely (again, just theorizing) a selective disadvantage. Maybe having them makes you more prone to infections or something....

But in the states and other developed nations, we simply take them out...in effect negating whatever selective advantage or disadvantage they may have imparted.

This is a smaller example of something I always wanted to look into - how modern medicine is influencing our own evolution...using different populations to collect data (main problem would probaby be sample size with the real remote tribes) as well as a number of uncontrolled variables...

i'm not curios about that at all.

i feel i understand so its not nessasary

Billy Bellend wrote:i'm not curios about that at all.

i feel i understand so its not nessasary

you understand very little

but if you're happy that way, more power to you.

you dont know me.

so all youve done is insult me.

and that is the least intelligent way of expressing your feelings toward the topic at hand.

there i taught some.

I haven't insulted you in the least.

You said you feel you understand...but there was nothing to 'understand.' There was simply an idea that I thought might be interesting to pursue. You can't 'understand' what I was describing because the data that would require understanding were not presented. So, you understood very little.

i cant be botherd with helping you understand.

it would take alot and your with your tone i dont think youd be very appreciative.

i mean the whole "angrey" tone .

tnf wrote:

bitWISE wrote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAH what a load of bullshit

http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_adaption.htm

As an aside: I know atleast 3 people who were not born with wisdom teeth. My girlfriend, my mom, and myself all had our wisdom teeth taken out so I wonder if maybe my kids wont have them. That would own. I think if we were more selective in our mating we would have evolved WAY more than we have.

Yes...we are seeing that happen.

I thought it would be interesting to examine the prevelance of wisdom teeth in populations that have never been introduced to modern dentistry (i.e. tribes in the deep jungle, the Brits, etc.) vs. those that have. Perhaps, and this is just a hypothesis, we might see a difference. For example, lets say that having wisdom teeth imparts some sort of selective advantage or, more likely (again, just theorizing) a selective disadvantage. Maybe having them makes you more prone to infections or something....

But in the states and other developed nations, we simply take them out...in effect negating whatever selective advantage or disadvantage they may have imparted.

This is a smaller example of something I always wanted to look into - how modern medicine is influencing our own evolution...using different populations to collect data (main problem would probaby be sample size with the real remote tribes) as well as a number of uncontrolled variables...

Mine actually do need taken out. They are titled and covered by my gums partially. The centers are beginning to decay since I can't brush them so its either fill teeth that I don't room for or remove them.

Billy Bellend wrote:i cant be botherd with helping you understand.

it would take alot and your with your tone i dont think youd be very appreciative.

i mean the whole "angrey" tone .

Is your other name 'pete'? :lol:

Don't worry, either. I'm not "angrey," I understand completely, and I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Billy Bellend wrote:i cant be botherd with helping you understand.

it would take alot and your with your tone i dont think youd be very appreciative.

i mean the whole "angrey" tone .

No reason to antagonize tnf there buddy.

heh no

pete is def his ownself far as i know .



hehe rook

jus putting in some posts is all