5th largest e-quake of century

[seremtan]

THAT'S HOW IS BABBY MALFORMED

[GONNAFISTYA]

Not to sound like a cock, but listening to the "scardey cat" reporting and 20 year-old fears of nuclear energy, I'm pretty convinced if a nuclear power plant suffered/survived an 8.9 scale earthquake, a huge tsunami, conducted a smash-up derby in the core room and then had Haley's comet slam into it at 25,000 mph...which miraculously didn't cause a meltdown but "created a risk of a meltdown"...people would still complain about nuclear energy.

Why is it people only think scientists are dumb when they're dealing with issues that are potentially dangerous? I firmly believe that modern nuclear facilities are as safe to those around them as the LHC is to those fucking frenchies drinking wine above it.

[EtUL]

People are stupid, this "everyone has a voice thing" is getting old, stupid people need shutting up.

[Tsakali]

slippery slope there EtUL

[EtUL]

Nah I'm fine with genocide too.

[Tsakali]

you passed the test...welcome aboard

[Eraser]

I think nuclear power is absolutely the way to go, especially if the focus would shift more to nuclear *fusion* (less by-product).

Nuclear fusion is still some way from being a viable way to produce energy.

All alternatives < nuclear power.

Like I said before, I'm sure the nuclear fission process is safe enough, but what about the radioactive waste? What is the right way to deal with that? I think this is a problem that's big enough to warrant some second thoughts about nuclear power.

[Tsakali]

"Fossil fuels: Deadlier than nuclear radiation"
http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well- ... -radiation

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

SHINO YUASA Associated Press

TOKYO — Workers discovered new pools of radioactive water leaking from Japan's crippled nuclear complex, officials said Monday, as emergency crews struggled to pump out hundreds of tons of contaminated water and bring the plant back under control.

Officials believe the contaminated water has sent radioactivity levels soaring at the coastal complex, and caused more radiation to seep into soil and seawater.

The Fukushima Daiichi power plant, 220 kilometres northeast of Tokyo, was crippled March 11 when a tsunami spawned by a powerful earthquake slammed into Japan's northeastern coast.

The huge wave engulfed much of the complex, and destroyed the crucial power systems needed to cool the complex's nuclear fuel rods.

Since then, three of the complex's six units are believed to have partially melted down, and emergency crews have struggled with everything from malfunctioning pumps to dangerous spikes in radiation that have forced temporary evacuations.

Confusion at the plant has intensified fears that the nuclear crisis will last weeks, months or years amid alarms over radiation making its way into produce, raw milk and even tap water as far away as Tokyo.

The troubles at the Fukushima complex have eclipsed Pennsylvania's 1979 crisis at Three Mile Island, when a partial meltdown raised fears of widespread radiation release, but is still well short of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, which killed at least 31 people with radiation sickness, raised long-term cancer rates, and spewed radiation for hundreds of kilometres.

While parts of the Japanese plant has been reconnected to the power grid, the contaminated water — which has now been found in numerous places around the complex, including the basements of several buildings — must be pumped out before electricity can be restored to the cooling system.

That has left officials struggling with two sometimes-contradictory efforts: pumping in water to keep the fuel rods cool and pumping out — and then safely storing — contaminated water.

Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, called that balance “very delicate work.”

He also said workers were still looking for safe ways to store the radioactive water.

“We are exploring all means,” he said.

The buildup of radioactive water first became a problem last week, when it splashed over the boots of two workers, burning them and prompting a temporary suspension of work.

Then on Monday, officials with Tokyo Electric Power Co., which owns and runs the complex, said that workers had found more radioactive water in deep trenches used for pipes and electrical wiring outside three units.

The contaminated water has been emitting radiation exposures more than four times the amount that the government considers safe for workers.

The five workers in the area at the time were not hurt, said TEPCO spokesman Takashi Kurita.

Exactly where the water is coming from remains unclear, though many suspect it is cooling water that has leaked from one of the disabled reactors.

It could take weeks to pump out the radioactive water, said Gary Was, a nuclear engineering professor at the University of Michigan.

“Battling the contamination so workers can work there is going to be an ongoing problem,” he said.

Meanwhile, new readings showed ocean contamination had spread 1.6 kilometres farther north of the nuclear site than before but is still within the 20-kilometre radius of the evacuation zone.

Radioactive iodine-131 was discovered offshore at a level 1,150 times higher than normal, Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, told reporters.

Amid reports that people had been sneaking back into the mandatory evacuation zone around the nuclear complex, the chief government spokesman again urged residents to stay out. Yukio Edano said contaminants posed a “big” health risk in that area.

Gregory Jaczko, head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, arrived in Tokyo on Monday to meet with Japanese officials and discuss the situation, the U.S. Embassy said in a statement.

“The unprecedented challenge before us remains serious, and our best experts remain fully engaged to help Japan,” Jaczko was quoted as saying.

[Ryoki]

Are you ever going to post anything other than single sentences and quotes from articles?

How about you distill that horrid fucking wall of text and make it into a bit of fact based opinion for us to read and comment on, that would be nice. Not that there's anything wrong with the average forum user's capacity of doing it themselves, but it would be good practice for you i feel. Regurgitating information like this is intellectually lazy don't you know, seems to me like you ought to work on your information comprehension and reproduction skills.

Have at it.

[xer0s]

lol shut up

[Ryoki]

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Are you ever going to post anything other than single sentences and quotes from articles?

How about you distill that horrid fucking wall of text and make it into a bit of fact based opinion for us to read and comment on, that would be nice. Not that there's anything wrong with the average forum user's capacity of doing it themselves, but it would be good practice for you i feel. Regurgitating information like this is intellectually lazy don't you know, seems to me like you ought to work on your information comprehension and reproduction skills.

Have at it.

I would but I can't be bothered. Feel free to put me on ignore or skip my posts.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Not that his criticism of me isn't valid, but after Ryoki's post I went back and took a look at what he has contributed to this thread. What exactly did you add of worth Ryoki? A few one sentence posts (the horror), and getting trolled by the most obvious troll on the internet?

Suck my dick Guyblowki.

ya diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

[Tsakali]

you just can't let shit go can you? ffs you're pretty bad about shit like that...I bet you're always the one killing a good time cause you just don't have the good sense of when to quit.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

i guess that's why i have no friends.

i'm sorry ryoki

[Therac-25]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... ar-reactor

Getting worse?

Article last from last year, relevant.

http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/liv ... 35.article

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Yep it's pretty fucked. No exposure to radiation is safe by the way (according to the National Academy of Sciences) despite all these pronouncements that risks to health are low. If you ingest this stuff it's bad news.

[Plan B]

...what about the radioactive waste?...

I agree that's a huge problem.
Storing it in a "safe place" (deeply burried/shot into space) doesn't really sound like a convincing long term solution.
But even taking that into account I think it's doable, and the benefits outweigh this drawback.

[seremtan]

Yep it's pretty fucked. No exposure to radiation is safe by the way (according to the National Academy of Sciences) despite all these pronouncements that risks to health are low. If you ingest this stuff it's bad news.

didn't do your mum any harm

oh wai-









...boom...

[shadd_]

Interesting chart that can help put radiation exposure into perspective.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uplo ... -chart.jpg

[Tsakali]

hey, where is the little square that puts this incident into perspective?

[obsidian]

Maybe it has something to do with the one labeled, "Fukushima". I'm not sure though, it's just a guess.


Even more into perspective, at 250 mSv radiation sickness starts to occur, nausea, fatigue and vomiting can occur within hours at this level of exposure.

10,000 mSv is lethal. Hair loss, hemorrhaging could develop over a period of months followed by death.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Right now there are places 25 miles away from the reactors (this would be in the voluntary evacuation zone) where one would get a year's maximum dose of radiation in 10 hours. (100 microsievert per hour.)

[Tsakali]

Maybe it has something to do with the one labeled, "Fukushima". I'm not sure though, it's just a guess.

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didn't see it

ps
FU