0psys wrote:Donny, judging by your form mate, I'd be dropping down to 55kg and working on my technique. At the moment, you're going to max out at 80kg, because you're relying solely on brute force to get it to your chest.
Portions of the clean should be done in relative relaxation, especially the transition between the pull and the catch.
Once the bar crosses your centre of gravity, you should right then be trying to get underneath it by literally dropping your entire body into a wide-knee squat. Needs to be done in a split second while the bar is hanging in mid air as it's transitioning between rising and falling. If done right, it'll require very little strength to hold it.
You should then be drawing your whole body underneath the bar and meeting the bar with the very middle of your clavicles, and rotating your elbows all the way forward until you're in a deep squat, with your elbow points almost up on the air. Then you rise out of it with a slight *pop* at the top.
You have to go so deep with a clean, because once you start hitting 100kg+, it's almost impossible to pull it as high as you are. You have to get right under it.
The clean is the ultimate cheat lift. Imagine how much you could bench if you were supposed to bounce the bar off your chest, or how much you could curl if the idea was to put your entire back into it. That's what a clean is. It's about using momentum to remove the difficult parts of the lift.
Cheers dude
I am trying to power clean rather than squat clean, but I know what you mean about dipping. I mentioned earlier that I have an issue with getting the bar into a good rack due to my lack of flexibility. Even with a heavy bar picked up from shoulder height I can barely get my elbows part horizontal. This is being worked on and should help with the quick elbows. I will be picking this as my goat for November (October is double unders) so I will do plenty of work on my form and tekkers in the dip and the rack.
scared? wrote:From what I saw in those vids...u don't know what the fuck u r doing....period...
A statement completely undermined when you realise you have no idea what you are talking about.
I'll take advice from you when I'm having dish related issues...you know...stubborn baked on food or greasy smears
Hey guys, I know you don't like to start new topics, but this one's been going for 4 years and it's just degenerated into bragging about who's bigger or better, or bitching about who's smaller or weaker, just like any other thread. Can't you start a new topic and actually discuss something?
Don Carlos wrote:A statement completely undermined when you realise you have no idea what you are talking about.
I'll take advice from you when I'm having dish related issues...you know...stubborn baked on food or greasy smears
I am trying to power clean rather than squat clean, but I know what you mean about dipping. I mentioned earlier that I have an issue with getting the bar into a good rack due to my lack of flexibility. Even with a heavy bar picked up from shoulder height I can barely get my elbows part horizontal. This is being worked on and should help with the quick elbows. I will be picking this as my goat for November (October is double unders) so I will do plenty of work on my form and tekkers in the dip and the rack.
Shit, I just looked up power cleans, and realised they were what you were doing. I always thought power cleans involved the squat as well, but now I realise that is why they're called "power" cleans. I know them as "pulls", which is probably a name I made up myself and never bothered looking up!
I am trying to power clean rather than squat clean, but I know what you mean about dipping. I mentioned earlier that I have an issue with getting the bar into a good rack due to my lack of flexibility. Even with a heavy bar picked up from shoulder height I can barely get my elbows part horizontal. This is being worked on and should help with the quick elbows. I will be picking this as my goat for November (October is double unders) so I will do plenty of work on my form and tekkers in the dip and the rack.
Shit, I just looked up power cleans, and realised they were what you were doing. I always thought power cleans involved the squat as well, but now I realise that is why they're called "power" cleans. I know them as "pulls", which is probably a name I made up myself and never bothered looking up!
Indeed they are sir, but my tekkers are still not where they need to be. I've been looking at video on the tube by Pyrros Dimas who seems to be a fucking champion when it comes to the power cleans. In fact let me get a cheeky one on here for you;
170kg and he throws it up easily due to the explosive power he has in his core and also because he keeps the bar incredibly vertical when it is travelling up his body. You will notice the bar also appearing "weightless" as he drops underneith it, which is where I am going wrong. I am not able to correctly judge when the bar is in that state and therefore do not drop under it in the slightest. I will get one of the lads to video me doing a squat clean tomorrow, then a power at the same weight for me to check out, but I will post them here so you can help with where you think I should transition (thats yourself, Andy and Feedback)