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Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:02 pm
by Κracus
Sorry pal it's just hard to feel bad for people that do this stuff to themselves.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:25 pm
by Captain
Ryoki wrote:But... but... we would have changed our ways if only you'd stayed
Serious reforms are needed though, if anything is abundantly clear it's that the EU needs to change. To name a few things i'd be for:
- get rid of the rotating EU presidency and actually elect a person who stays in power for a set term. As in, actual people should elect this person, not the parliament.
- make it so that i can vote for say, a Spanish party in EU elections
- seriously reduce the size of the EU parliament, it's far too large to be effective
- take a hard look at the subsidies and axe a whole bunch of them
In short, make the average European feel like he has something to say about the EU project instead of making it this vague thing in Brussels you have little say over. And reduce the waste, there's so much waste... and most of it is a result of politically motivated deals (hey if you frenchies vote for this thing we promise not to bring up those ridiculous wine subsidies you claim are so important). Etc, etc.
In any case, like Phant, i'm actually worried about my future a little. Because this is going to make all of us poorer... goddamnit.
And get rid of the likes of Romania and Greece. It's a joke that the financially stable countries have to pick up their tabs.
Also this will be a perfect chance for Scotland to hold another independence referendum and distance themselves from their retarded cousin.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:34 pm
by Eraser
Κracus wrote:What does this mean for the EU? Is that going to collapse entirely and result in a bunch of non-collective countries bordering each other?
Why would this happen? Because seremtan... I mean... Varoufakis said so?
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:37 pm
by losCHUNK
Κracus wrote:Sorry pal it's just hard to feel bad for people that do this stuff to themselves.
Woah horsey, there are genuine problems - I mean for a start we now get to attack TTIP in our own house, rather than having it forced through over their heads.
Another dick example is if Scotland did want to become independent then Spain has already said they would veto the move. The EU deserves a good portion of the blame. It's why the Brit public had no shortage of problems to select when making their decision.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:42 pm
by Ryoki
Because then certain Spanish regions would quite possibly do likewise.
That veto power thing is something else that absolutely has to go (or at least should be drastically limited) - right now 27 countries can be for something and 1 against and bam, it's off the table.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:43 pm
by losCHUNK
Yarp
But that just centralises power even more...
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:49 pm
by Ryoki
How so? Nothing fundamentally wrong with a majority vote thing. You can even invent some rules like 'it has to be under 35% no to still pass' or whatever.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:54 pm
by losCHUNK
Well, as an example, Britain is using a different currency to the rest of Europe so would naturally want to protect it. If a vote passed where the euro benefits but the pound takes it hit, that wouldn't be fair imo. It also leaves the door open for Europe to suck the value from the pound, If I were being cynical. There's also nothing wrong with protecting your own interests
You can adapt it to different scenarios, I'm sure Greece, Italy and Spain have a few sob stories.
And if you think it would be a good idea to adopt the Euro then after 2007 I disagree.
Living in Wales you learn to hate a central government that makes all your decisions by simply being outnumbered.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:02 pm
by phantasmagoria
And now everyone is surprised that the economy is doing a shit.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:02 pm
by PhoeniX
A customer who came in here today said he was really worried about what'll happen next. When asked how he voted, he voted leave, because his wife voted to stay and he thought he should "even up the household"... lol
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:16 pm
by phantasmagoria
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Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:21 pm
by plained
phantasmagoria wrote:And now everyone is surprised that the economy is doing a shit.
it will recoup and increase soon enough.
buy now while its all on sale!
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:22 pm
by plained
plained wrote:this is foregone conclusion always has been
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by scared?
It's time to bomb the Brits... Shall we go conventional or nuclear?...
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:26 pm
by Doombrain
MKJ wrote:Doombrain wrote:U guys going to be ok?
someone voted leave.
Nope, remain. I earn £60k+ and have started investing, plus I'd like the money in my house to stay where it is. However I respect the democratic process, and I'm not a little bitch.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:29 pm
by Doombrain
Can we ban plained for a bit, just for lols?
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:50 pm
by scared?
Doombrain wrote:I earn £60k+
Lol ur poor and for some reason seem proud about it...
...
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:51 pm
by plained
Doombrain wrote: I earn £60k
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:57 pm
by PhoeniX
scared? wrote:Doombrain wrote:I earn £60k+
Lol ur poor and for some reason seem proud about it...
...
With the state of the pound today you may be right for once
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:58 pm
by scared?
Plus taxes... He is literally a poor person who is too ignorant to realize he's a peasant ...
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:13 pm
by Doombrain
You're really boring. You used to be funny.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:17 pm
by losCHUNK
100bn wiped off the ftse100 in 1 day (8%), the 250 dropped 11%.
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:25 pm
by plained
oh come on dont be all mwah' m wah! chin up !
i am happy of your new increases your enthusiasm and excitement are understandable .
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Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:41 pm
by losCHUNK
Big Pits gonna close down, St Fagans, porthcawl and barry are gonna go back to a sea of turds
The transporter bridge !
Re: Brexiting is closer than I thought it would be
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:58 pm
by seremtan
GAY
also
>2018
>single market deal signed
>open borders with EU because muh free trade bruh
>no referendum this time
>salt for miles around