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Canis wrote:Fiber optic telephones?

I dunno man. I lived across the road from a construction site b y RedRow housing, 1 OceanWharf Apartments right on the esplanade in Greenock


http://www.redrow.net/ShowSite.aspx?sid=6046


and in the brochure they said they were implementing Fibre Optics for the Telephone and internet





They said some shit about how you wouldnt pay for calls above a certain premium per month and all that kind of jazz

The house didnt have any regular telephone ports ? Dont know how, didnt care enough to find out since I just went along to see what they were like and find out how much they were going for, just before I put my own house up for sale

i hope those internet2 stocks kick in soon yo

Canis wrote:Whatever happened to it? Wasnt it supposed to be the big revolutionary thing to increase speeds by multitudes and magnitudes?

Yeah, some schools and government already use it. It's for specifically that purpose. It'll never hit the commercial home.

Nightshade wrote:

Canis wrote: I don't know how much the B2B internet market has grown/diminished, but I would hazard a guess that it's still not where it was before the dot com bust.

broadband internet connectivity is always growing.
IIRC 2 or 3 years ago the US finally eclipsed dial-up with > 50% of subscribers coming from cable/dsl.

the "dot com" hullabaloo has nothing to do with internet connectivity.
once guys find out they can get dvd pr0n of the net if they get cable, its a no brainer.

adsl2 is where its at anyways

Wasnt there some guy in the netherlands who was trying to get Ethernet ports and 10/1000Base-T networking to every home there? I figure it would be something like Cable in the long run...

dunno
the major ISPs are all selling adsl2+ like crazy atm though - "the tripleplay" system. internet, teevee & phoneline(and cell) all over the digital intardnetline (20mbit).
fun

I heard it's a good place to get child porn

Dr_Watson wrote:

Nightshade wrote:

Canis wrote: I don't know how much the B2B internet market has grown/diminished, but I would hazard a guess that it's still not where it was before the dot com bust.

broadband internet connectivity is always growing.
IIRC 2 or 3 years ago the US finally eclipsed dial-up with > 50% of subscribers coming from cable/dsl.

the "dot com" hullabaloo has nothing to do with internet connectivity.
once guys find out they can get dvd pr0n of the net if they get cable, its a no brainer.

Uhh yeah, I'm talking about Business to Business e-commerce in that post. And I'd say that the internet infrastructure expansion was largely driven by what became the dot com boom. Do you really think that ISPs make more money off of residential service than from businesses?

no, but it's the home users who "need" the most bandwidth

I'd like to see some numbers to substantiate that claim.

Doesn't porn use up like 2/3 of all bandwidth on the net?

Grudge wrote:Doesn't porn use up like 2/3 of all bandwidth on the net?

A good chunk of it...

Wow, shit. it's been a long time since I've been here.

Did a search for my name

Anyway, to answer the question, there's more to it than just yes, no, because.

back during the dot.com boom companies spent mega bucks laying fiber in anticipation of mass sustained usage. But of course it went to shit and the bottom dropped out. That left all the 'dark' fiber in the ground.

As for cost? the costs involved with fiber is ungodly. The last time I managed a project where we did any fiber was on the Navy contract. a 144 strand of fiber (about as big as your index finger) was 70 bucks... a foot....

that's changed, but the point is the cost is huge. The fiber is the cheap part. the head ends they go to are the extremely expensive part.

Now, on to 'Internet 2'. Personally? Yup i do think it's coming, and if you watch the trends you'll see it too. Google has been buying up HUGE amounts of dark fiber, and the buzz right now is they are going to create a parallel internet that THEY own. Their intention would be to compete with small companies doing the wireless hot spots free. Right now the govt is paying for the installation of all these things because they want it up, but google doesn't need it, they can build it themselves.

So what happens? You go to the park with your laptop and you see the googlenet. jump in, and they have direct control over your whole connection. You can rest assured it will require special software to connect that also has the ability to force ads to you.

As an advertiser it's a huge bonus to be able to get things like this and they pay a fortune for it.

So, directly? no I don't think so. A business adventure? most definitely but the problem is who the hell could afford it? Google, and Microsoft.

Don't count MS out either. This is coming and it's actively being developed. This is a sort of 'the writing's on the wall' stage, but what other reason would google have of buying thousands of miles of fiber? They don't need anywhere near that much for their current search/infrastructure. In fact, google's first claim to fame was how you could do these huge search engines with cheap, small equipment.

Basically what VE is saying is that I was right. :icon25:

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