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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:07 pm
by glossy
HisHighness wrote:Hmmmm, I'd like to start a poll in this thread:
Do you think "AnthonyJa" and "Timbo" could have sounded any more like assholes there?
1. Yes, they could have done a bit better.
2. No, they sounded like complete assholes.
Vote Early, and Vote Often!
Timbo is oldschool and knows more than your mother, father, uncle and grandfather combined, cubed, and multiplied by a billion or so. As such, he can say whatever he likes and you will nod and agree with him. Understand what he's saying (along with the rest of the people that are smarter than you) and thank him for the knowledge he imparts. Without people like him, this forum becomes a mess of unanswered questions.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:59 pm
by neh
the final version of msvc express edition is free if downloaded between now (its currently available - goto
http://msdn.microsoft.com and follow the many obvious banners) ..
its actually no longer buggy as hell and has a tonne of useful IDE features that will no doubt help greatly
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:56 am
by torhu
Is it true that only the Team edition of msvc 2005 has got a profiler? That sucks.
Maybe I'll stick with msvc 6 pro for q3 stuff, then.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:44 am
by ^misantropia^
Cygwin and gprof? I think MinGW also comes with gprof included.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:41 pm
by AnthonyJa
torhu wrote:Is it true that only the Team edition of msvc 2005 has got a profiler? That sucks.
Maybe I'll stick with msvc 6 pro for q3 stuff, then.
You may find that the all new "Enterprise Profiling Tool" is in addition to existing profiling stuff. For one thing, all articles I've seen about it are talking about the CLR, and .NET apps - not natice C/C++.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:52 pm
by torhu
AnthonyJa wrote:You may find that the all new "Enterprise Profiling Tool" is in addition to existing profiling stuff. For one thing, all articles I've seen about it are talking about the CLR, and .NET apps - not natice C/C++.
It says here that only the team system has got 'code profiling':
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/produ ... fault.aspx
But an older version of that table says that the pro edition has got it too, and so does a feature overview I saw. So I guess they changed their minds, and decided to make people pay more for this feature.
As for using gprof, I'd really rather not use a different compiler when profiling. And there's no Windows IDE for mingw or cygwin that comes close to msvc's usability and feature set. And please don't mention Dev-C++, I tried it couple of years ago.
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:25 am
by ^misantropia^
^misantropia^ wrote:Real Men use vi
