Quake3World

Well to be honest, if you look at the top right it was going for 2 hours and didn't do anything significant besides error so i think they actually came up with a protection that worked at least at a basic to moderate level.

Try messing with the options that come up in the iso making wizard... I think it's the 'fast skip errors' option that finishes the disk a lot faster (under 30 mins), mind you the errros still show up but it got finished. If not you might need to check the other options or change to the appropriate datatype (such as safedisc2/3), so find out what your media uses if ya can.

Well, fast skip doesn't work here. I've just given up. I'll go see if i can find it somewhere lying around

those read error messages are normal, safedisc copyprotection scatters bad sectors all over the disc... which is why you're comming up 19meg short when you use something that isn't equiped to handle it.
if you check it will tell you what copy protection scheme the disc uses, then you can just set alcohol to that scheme when you make the image.
it will spit out those messages telling you it found bad sectors, which will be noted in the image file... that way when it burns the image it can put the bad sectors back in where they belong, thus; creating a perfect backup.
just burn the image... i bet it works perfect.

Aye trying this now

Moderated. That site is a very grey area; sorry gents.

K no problem, burned it but my player seems to be buggering out on me. But if it's so grey take it out of watson's post too.