V for Vendetta

Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:46 pm

Yea, so the movie was very different from the graphic novel, but it did a good job of getting the point across anyway.

Post by **Deji** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:54 pm

1984? That book just pretty much describes what went on in the USSR.

Post by **R00k** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:04 pm

I really want to see it from what I've caught of the trailers and heard about it.

I did read an article the other day though, that talked about Moore's strong disagreements with Hollywood over his works. The article's called "The Vendetta Behind V For Vendetta." You should be able to read it here:
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2006/03/ ... .html?8dpc

It almost makes me wonder if I really want to go see it (or d/l it instead), although it seems like Moore gets up in arms about some things just because it's his prerogative to do so.

Either way it looks like an interesting film, and I'm wondering if I should try to find the graphic novels before I see it.

Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:04 pm

Yea, I can definitely see why Moore would want nothing to do with the film adaptations of his novels. From Hell the movie didn't even touch the depth of the novel, and V for Vendetta left out many things that made the graphic novel so great.

Post by **R00k** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:07 pm

See, I liked From Hell, but I never had any idea he was the guy who created it.

It makes me want to go check out the graphic novel for that one too.

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:21 pm

Grudge wrote:V for Vendetta - 7/10

I really liked how "British" they had managed to make it feel. And the casting of John Hurt as the dictator was pure genious (hint: 1984). Oh, and fucking lol at the Yakety Sax gag.

It balanced on the edge of sentimentality a couple of times, but thankfully never delved to deeply into it. I wish I had read the comic before though, I would have liked to have some sort of reference to what was part of the comic and what was added by the Wachowski brothers.

EDIT: changed the score to 7/10, it's not a 8

Post by **R00k** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:03 pm

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Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:05 pm

R00k wrote:See, I liked From Hell, but I never had any idea he was the guy who created it.

It makes me want to go check out the graphic novel for that one too.

From Hell the movie and the comic are 2 very different animals.

Post by **dnoyc** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:25 pm

i've seen the movie twice. it's very good.

Post by **JulesWinnfield** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:45 pm

Just got back from seeing it.

Great fucking movie.

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:01 pm

likewise

pretty good, though the direction was a bit flat, plus i can't see it taking off in america with all those long words

it was indeed very british, just the effect you'd expect from casting an american and an australian in the lead roles

btw movie theatre was virtually empty - about 10 people

Post by **JulesWinnfield** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:05 pm

seremtan wrote: btw movie theatre was virtually empty - about 10 people

That's the best thing about a weekday matinee.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:42 pm

Just came home from seeing it.

No it didn't feel old, and the theatre was almost empty over here as well.

It was a great movie, very inspiring. I think I even liked the movie's ending better, although the "March of the Vs" was kinda cheesy I thought.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:28 pm

V for Vendettea - 8/10

I liked it more for the ideas and the premise rather than for the fantastic acting or anything like that. Tho that said Hugo Weaving was fantastic! Articulate and very Bristish while seeming odd...very powerfull and a real presence on screan.

Infact the more i think about it the more i loved this film...oh the dialog is fantastic throughout....

my review from the film thread

really like it, V as a character is amazing!

Post by **R00k** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:34 pm

I may just go ahead and see it tonight. I've really been looking forward to it, the only thing that's put me off is Moore's ranting about what they've done to his work.

Fuck him I guess, right?

Post by **Don Carlos** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:36 pm

the ending is not what the comics and the beigin isnt 100% and has a little bit of silly dialog BUT 70% of the film is near enough 100% true to the comic (give of take minor bits) so i dunno what he is shouting about.

My mate brought the comic in today, its nice!

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:13 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:
seremtan wrote: btw movie theatre was virtually empty - about 10 people
That's the best thing about a weekday matinee.

except it was a 5.30 start, right after work. i don't do matinees

Post by **Kaz** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:00 am

http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/co ... ndetta.htm

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Post by **seremtan** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:02 am

those look very farcry

Post by **Deathshroud** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:09 am

Don Carlos wrote:the ending is not what the comics and the beigin isnt 100% and has a little bit of silly dialog BUT 70% of the film is near enough 100% true to the comic (give of take minor bits) so i dunno what he is shouting about.

My mate brought the comic in today, its nice!

There was a lot missing from the movie.

The relationship between the dictator and his supercomputer he named, and uses to keep a close watch over everyone.

The fact that the movie and the comic don't end nearly the same.

What you don't know, is in the movie when that little girl is spray painting a V on the poster, V hijacked the security network and shut down the security cameras.

Also, when the policeman tells his partener about how he went to that camp V was held at and it all came to him is very different in the comic. In the comic he takes LSD, and has a bad trip @ the camp and experiences everything that happened there. This is a huge breakthrough for him. But he becomes so consumed by the V case that he becomes this miserable wreck by the end of the comic.

So yea, there are just a few things missing.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:59 pm

Most of which are rather silly.

Post by **Deathshroud** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:17 pm

SplishSplash wrote:Most of which are rather silly.

Yea, some of that stuff is kinda silly. But it really comes together in the comic well.

I still wonder why they even attribute From Hell the movie to From Hell the comic. The comic was so bizarre at some parts it became kinda hard to follow.

Post by **-Replicant-** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:57 pm

here's V's opening "v" dialog:

V wrote: "Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

whats so special about it?

- in the novel, V speaks in iambic pentamater, and, not counting "and you may call me V," this speech is made up of 5 iambs.

- except for his name at the end of the speech, it contains 55 v's

- the 5th of november (5 x 11) = 55

Alan Moore/the Wachowski Brothers are nuts

Post by **R00k** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:21 pm

I finally saw this at the theater last night.

This movie is incredible.

It's also not what I expected. I hadn't exposed myself to a lot of reading on it, mainly just what I read here, the trailer, a couple reviews and that article about Moore's issues.

Going in, I expected to see a dark movie in comic-book style - thinking Sin City at this point - with hints of political undertones throughout the story. This was much more in your face, and much more powerful as well.

I was also surprised that this thing was even produced and aired in the US. There were a couple points in the movie where I almost felt like I was doing something subversive just by watching it.

Overall it's a powerful story, and aside from the lead detective guy, I really liked the acting as well. I might have to see it again.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:06 pm

so britian in this movie is a metaphor for bush's america...and bush has fucked shit up so much in the past 5 years that americans r actually going to the movies and cheering FOR terrorism...rofl?...