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				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:38 pm
				by Wizard .3
				Kracus wrote:Wizard .3 wrote:Kracus wrote:Yeah that's where I figure magnatism and gravity might be able to work together... I wonder what causes the loss of friction.. Cause magnets do actualy provide a form of propulsion but it's hard to harness I figure...
We harness magnetic energy all the fucking time. Do you understand how a hydroelectric dam works?!?  

 
Yeah do you understand how the HYDRO comes into play in that particular example?
 
What the fuck are you moaning about?? Energy from gravity is converted into mechanical, which is converted into electomagnetic....?!
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:39 pm
				by Guest
				[xeno]Julios wrote:Kracus wrote:Yes I understood that point and I agree, but if you use two forces, gravity and magnetism, I wonder about the possibility of have a better than 100% retrun in kinetic movement...
if you understood the point, let alone agreed with it, then you wouldn't make such a suggestion.
No matter what configuration you use, or which forces you harness, you cannot create energy out of nothing.
I don't understand why you think combining gravity and magnetism would somehow allow you to violate reality.
 
Well fuel propels a vehicle and like what's his name mentioned hydro power does move other objects enough to create energy despite the fact that it's just water falling because of gravity. Gravity, is still there, with or without the water, and the water finds a way to the top of the mountain on a pretty consistent basis through evaporation etc etc... So... Although it isn't permanent it is pretty long lived, so obtaining energy through natural means other than explosions (Gasoline) is possible.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:40 pm
				by Nightshade
				Survivor wrote:Only one pm machine exists and it consist of the entire fucking universe.
It's not a PM machine, there's a finite amount of available energy in the universe.
Thermodynamics text --->
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:41 pm
				by Nightshade
				Kracus wrote:[xeno]Julios wrote:Kracus wrote:Yes I understood that point and I agree, but if you use two forces, gravity and magnetism, I wonder about the possibility of have a better than 100% retrun in kinetic movement...
if you understood the point, let alone agreed with it, then you wouldn't make such a suggestion.
No matter what configuration you use, or which forces you harness, you cannot create energy out of nothing.
I don't understand why you think combining gravity and magnetism would somehow allow you to violate reality.
 
Well fuel propels a vehicle and like what's his name mentioned hydro power does move other objects enough to create energy despite the fact that it's just water falling because of gravity. Gravity, is still there, with or without the water, and the water finds a way to the top of the mountain on a pretty consistent basis through evaporation etc etc... So... Although it isn't permanent it is pretty long lived, so obtaining energy through natural means other than explosions (Gasoline) is possible.
 
Jesus fucking christ. How stoned are you?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:42 pm
				by Guest
				I'm pretty consistently stoned?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:43 pm
				by [xeno]Julios
				krakus, how do u think the water gets back to the top of the mountains?
FROM THE FUCKING SUN.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:43 pm
				by Nightshade
				Kracus wrote:I'm pretty consistently retarded.
Better.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:45 pm
				by Guest
				Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:46 pm
				by Wizard .3
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:46 pm
				by Guest
				[xeno]Julios wrote:krakus, how do u think the water gets back to the top of the mountains?
FROM THE FUCKING SUN.
Oh yeah... Well that works too...
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:47 pm
				by Massive Quasars
				Kracus, it's pretty clear you don't have a consistent interest in any of the crap you spout here. It's fleeting at best, because if you actually gave two shits you'd pickup some of the lay-friendly physics texts out there and read them (gawd forbid).
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:47 pm
				by bikkeldesnikkel
				Kracus wrote:Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
you're not serious, are you
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:48 pm
				by Wizard .3
				YOU CAN'T CREATE A PERPETURAL MOTION MACHINE. IT VIOLATES THE VERY BASIC LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:49 pm
				by MKJ
				Kracus wrote:Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
you know, when i was reading this thread i was thinking of this 'idea' people utter everyt once n a while and how utterly retarded its logic is.
i never gave you much credit, but i did give you more than that 

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				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:49 pm
				by Guest
				I realize that, but perpetual motion doesn't need to be thermal. 
hehehehe just kidding on that one.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:50 pm
				by Guest
				MKJ wrote:Kracus wrote:Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
you know, when i was reading this thread i was thinking of this 'idea' people utter everyt once n a while and how utterly retarded its logic is.
i never gave you much credit, but i did give you more than that 

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lol
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:51 pm
				by Doombrain
				END OF TEST
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				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:05 pm
				by [xeno]Julios
				Kracus wrote:Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
you're just not getting it.
go read something
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:10 pm
				by spookmineer
				Someone invented a pocket torch on solar energy.
Pity it only worked in full sunlight.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:13 pm
				by Guest
				[xeno]Julios wrote:Kracus wrote:Maybe that's how I can create a perpetual motion machine, by harnessnig the earths warmth I could cause water to flow down a tube to power a generator and then cause the water at the bottom to evaporate, go to the top, where a flow of cool water sits causing it to transform back into water which flows down the tube.
you're just not getting it.
go read something
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine 
Thanks, I read this. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox%27s_timepiece
Perpetual motion?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:23 pm
				by Wizard .3
				
The device is powered from changes in atmospheric pressure via a mercury barometer.
 Cunt?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:26 pm
				by Guest
				Qualifies in my book. I have no problems using the sun to create perpetual motion.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:32 pm
				by Guest
				You can't even spell my name backwards properly, and worse, you think it's funny and you're calling me stupid? Don't worry riddla, if you want to get on the definition bandwagon and tell me the use of the sun doesn't qualify as perpetual motion go right ahead.I give a rats ass, really.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:33 pm
				by Guest
				I on the other hand, think the use of a barometer to make a continualy functioning clock is amazingly clever.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:34 pm
				by Wizard .3
				Kracus wrote:I on the other hand, think the use of a barometer to make a continualy functioning clock is amazingly clever.
I agree. I've got a wristwatch that runs off the motion of my hand. Pretty sweet.