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Canis wrote:The recommended specs for less than $300? I'm doubtful...let's see:

1GB RAM = $50
AMD Duron 1.8GHz = $50
Motherboard = $50
40GB HD = $40
128MB GPU = $35
DVD ROM = $20
Case & Power = $30

Monitor = $90
Keyboard = $5
Mouse = $3

Total: $275 for the standalone system, $373 for the complete package. Hot diggity!

They stopped making Duron's years ago. They are Sempron's now.

Hope Symantec sucessfully delays Vista.

By a show of interhands, how many of you have actually used the Vista beta builds? Especially the last two or three.

*raises interhand*

*handsup*

Got a few discs of the most recent direct from uni (I think they're getting over-zealous). Not sure which build I used last.

Foo wrote:Hope Symantec sucessfully delays Vista.

You're such a microsoft hater, its not even funny

i last used RC2... i also forget what build..

Foo wrote:Hope Symantec sucessfully delays Vista.

Yeah it won't happen. Symantec bought out Veritas, which means they also aquired Veritas' somewhat undesirable contracts. And thats if MS didn't renew in 2004, which they supposedly did and which would nullify Symantec's argument altogether.

I've briefly tested it and will be doing more extensive testing for our business environment in upcoming months.

* hand up *

SOAPboy wrote:

Foo wrote:Hope Symantec sucessfully delays Vista.

You're such a microsoft hater, its not even funny

haters wouldn't use the OS.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:haters wouldn't use the OS.

Untrue. I hate Windows because of so many annoyances that I encounter when using it for any significant length of time. I vastly prefer to use KDE on Linux. Still, I did used to run XP dual-boot in order to play a bunch of "PC" games that I own. I stopped booting XP and have been Windows-free for over a year now largely because my installation ate itself yet again and I keep putting off the reinstallation.

but you're putting off the reinstall, therefore, you're not using the OS.

btw, i dual boot myself, what flavor are you using?

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i last used RC2... i also forget what build..

There is no RC2 for Vista

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:but you're putting off the reinstall, therefore, you're not using the OS.

Well, not currently. I intend to use it whenever I get the urge to replay some game(s) that won't run under wine, though.

btw, i dual boot myself, what flavor are you using?

Debian.

Caffeine wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:haters wouldn't use the OS.

Untrue. I hate Windows because of so many annoyances that I encounter when using it for any significant length of time. I vastly prefer to use KDE on Linux. Still, I did used to run XP dual-boot in order to play a bunch of "PC" games that I own. I stopped booting XP and have been Windows-free for over a year now largely because my installation ate itself yet again and I keep putting off the reinstallation.

Its funny that so many people have no problems whatsoever. Ever thought it might be a lack of skill or knowledge on your own part thats causing your systems issues?

Tormentius wrote: Its funny that so many people have no problems whatsoever.

The "annoyances" that I was referring to are features and behaviors that I've come to expect in Linux, KDE, and various FOSS apps that are absent (or craptacular) in Windows. I have tried many times to work around this, but I always end up being unsatisfied.

Case in point: Virtual desktops. I could not find a decent, no-cost implementation for Windows. Of the free ones that I tried, all were inferior in some way.

Ever thought it might be a lack of skill or knowledge on your own part thats causing your systems issues?

Yeah, it's possible that I disabled some service that I shouldn't have, or tweaked something that shouldn't have been. I just can't help it when I'm running Windows on my own machines, though -- I'm never happy with it.

something tells me linux will have a more popular future

CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future

Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..

SOAPboy wrote:

CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future

Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..

um, you can do that with Ubuntu.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future

Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..

um, you can do that with Ubuntu.

Really? and have FULL 3d support without having to edit shit and add drivers all kinds of retarded ways?

of course you need the current driver for graphics cards, but we're not talking about gaming. "fully functional computer" in most people's terms, this does not include playing the latest games but rather being able to surf, check email, chat, and the like.

we're talking about your average user, not a gamer.

Is Vista going to be filled with BSODs and system failures as much as XP?

what the hell are some of you guys doing with your systems? almost four years of using xp and i've had ONE BSOD after installing some sh1t freeware software (cd labeling software, iirc)

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:what the hell are some of you guys doing with your systems? almost four years of using xp and i've had ONE BSOD after installing some sh1t freeware software (cd labeling software, iirc)

no shit.. onyl time i get BSODs is when i add some crazy hardware/driver combo that OTHER HARDWARE dont like.. OS is fine.. people are just tools..

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:of course you need the current driver for graphics cards, but we're not talking about gaming. "fully functional computer" in most people's terms, this does not include playing the latest games but rather being able to surf, check email, chat, and the like.

we're talking about your average user, not a gamer.

Average person does play games.. maybe not "uber high end" but stupid shit that requires SOME 3d usage.. Example, my GFs grandma plays poker, game requres direct x and 3d acceleration..


Point im getting at here, is right now you have to go through fuck all to get proper 3d support right now.. when you can just double click a file and let an installer just take over, THEN its easy enough for bob to use..

yeah, but most (if not all?) of the online poker games are windows only anyway. moot point.