How many people are running vista?

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:47 pm

Grudge wrote:
seremtan wrote:nothing has made me consider linux more seriously than all the stories i've heard about vista
I'd prefer some first hand experience before listening to ranting linux nerds.

that would involve installing it and trying it though, wouldn't it

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:49 pm

Dukester wrote:Carmack opinion:

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/ ... .15034.htm

Carmack: It’s a tough thing for Microsoft, where, essentially, Windows XP was a just fine operating system. Before that, there were horrible problems with Windows. But once they got there, it did everything an operating system is supposed to do. Nothing is going to help a new game by going to a new operating system. There were some clear wins going from Windows 95 to Windows XP for games, but there really aren’t any for Vista. They’re artificially doing that by tying DX10 so close it, which is really nothing about the OS. It’s a hardware-interface spec. It’s an artificial thing that they’re doing there. They’re really grasping at straws for reasons to upgrade the operating system. I suspect I could run XP for a great many more years without having a problem with it.

yeah, i've suspected the DX10 thing is the bait on an otherwise unexciting hook

Post by **puffalufagus** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:51 pm

i think i'll listen to teh crmack...

Post by **menkent** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:00 pm

seremtan wrote:
Grudge wrote:
seremtan wrote:nothing has made me consider linux more seriously than all the stories i've heard about vista
I'd prefer some first hand experience before listening to ranting linux nerds.
that would involve installing it and trying it though, wouldn't it

linux isn't that bad, but it's certainly a lot more work. you'll go fine for weeks and suddenly have to compile something yourself or an installer will be looking for pearl in the wrong spot and you can throw away an entire day putzing around in help forums trying to find anyone who can answer you without just whipping out his penguin shaped dick and trying to give the l33test answer possible to impress his interbitches.

Post by **booker** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:09 pm

ill till you after the 29th

Post by **Captain** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:13 pm

XP works fine :icon14:

Post by **Foo** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:15 pm

My company is making a lot of noise like they're going to switch to Vista as soon as it becomes available.

Which is about the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:30 pm

Foo wrote:My company is making a lot of noise like they're going to switch to Vista as soon as it becomes available.

Which is about the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

going by what you've said before this sort of mentality shouldn't come as much of a surprise. :icon26:

so far i'd expect the only people that are running vista are those McMansion owning gaget monkeys who don't think and just grab at whatever is new.
even pc magazine, who's articles are generally as interesting and unbaised as reading the marketing pamphlet handed out by the vendor, had nothing really convincing to say about vista. they're whores and the only reason to get vista they could find was if you find yourself in a situation where you're buying a new pc that comes with it... you mind as well get it. but going out and buying a copy to replace XP is about as usefull as burning $100 bill to see if franklin changes his expression.

Post by **PhoeniX** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:38 pm

I need to format soon, I'm very tempted:

\o/ for students.

Post by **werldhed** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:44 pm

PhoeniX wrote:I need to format soon, I'm very tempted:

\o/ for students.

Word. My school is supposedly going to offer free upgrades around May. In addition, I'm getting another free copy, so I will hopefully be able to install on my home computer and my laptop.

God knows I wouldn't use it if I had to pay for it.

Post by **dzjepp** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:01 pm

Had the final installed on the laptop for a week or two. Didn't like it much. Fuck all that extra eye candy, and the giant blimp sized icons (rofl). Plus user account control will piss you off pretty good on your home machine (asking every time you want to fucking open something). The one nice thing is that it should have most of your hardware installed when you pop it in. It installed everything for me including the printer.

Saying all that though I will probably install it again next time I need to format by using http://www.vlite.net to shrink it down to make it function more or less like xp.

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:23 pm

ah yes, that fucking security popup all the fucking time.
an 'are you sure' dialog isnt enough, you also need to authorize it. im the fucking admin, fuck off

Post by **Tormentius** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:31 pm

MKJ wrote:ah yes, that fucking security popup all the fucking time.
an 'are you sure' dialog isnt enough, you also need to authorize it. im the fucking admin, fuck off

You know you can easily disable that feature, right? You can also make the desktop look like XP or 2000.

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:37 pm

im sure you can, and i intend to soon. first i have to get it to communicate with the rest of the vlan.
desktop will stay aero since thatll be how most of the casual users will have it :[

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:50 pm

so, it has dx10 and aero. i already have aero. how long before dx10 runs on XP as well

Post by **Foo** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:56 pm

Already does, they're calling it 9-point something.

Will probably deliberately cripple some of its bells-and-whistles.

Post by **Doombrain** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:32 pm

mint, just got a mail from MS. office 2007 and prem should be with me tomorrow.

i'm liking it so far, but even on 1440x900 it's a little busy. i think you really need a huge screen for this OS.

got no screen grab yet

Post by **mjrpes** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:41 pm

I tried to Vista Update Adviser. I ran it twice and it crashed my system, forcing me to hard boot. I will interpret that as a 'no'.

Beyond that, XP suites me just fine. I remember back when XP came out and I was running Win98, the difference was like night and day when it came down to stability and speed. It truly was (coming from Win98, not Win2000) a good upgrade.

So I'll be sticking with XP until I'm forced to upgrade.

Post by **booker** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:55 pm

$399 for Vista Ultimate? WTF? OS X is only $130.

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:56 pm

Doombrain wrote:mint, just got a mail from MS. office 2007 and prem should be with me tomorrow.

i'm liking it so far, but even on 1440x900 it's a little busy. i think you really need a huge screen for this OS.

got no screen grab yet

dont get me started on office2007

Post by **Scourge** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:24 pm

Getting it free so I'll give it a shot. I can always go back to XP.

Post by **Captain** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:36 am

Foo wrote:Already does, they're calling it 9-point something.

Will probably deliberately cripple some of its bells-and-whistles.

No, 9.L will only be on Vista and it's basically just an upgraded 9.0c.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:51 am

Tormentius wrote:
MKJ wrote:ah yes, that fucking security popup all the fucking time.
an 'are you sure' dialog isnt enough, you also need to authorize it. im the fucking admin, fuck off
You can also make the desktop look like XP...

who in their right mind would want that

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:12 am

booker wrote:$399 for Vista Ultimate? WTF? OS X is only $130.

And, if you felt like it, you could install that on as many computers as you like

Post by **booker** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:21 am

after reading this im not sure I want to get vista.