War with Iran already started?

[R00k]

http://icga.blogspot.com/2007/08/post-l ... -with.html
Post-Labor Day Product Rollout: War with Iran


http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Scarboro ... _0827.html
Pat Buchanan: Democrats will fall in line with 'popular' war on Iran

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Amurca needs more oil.

[Fender]

Amurca needs more oil.

Apparently we do, because Ethanol isn't going to help anything.
burning ethanol actually produces 54% more CO2 as global warming pollutant than gasoline
other solutions are still a long way off...

[Survivor]

Isn't more because ethanol is quick-replenishing (coming from plants and all) and oil isn't (well not for millions of years) that they want to shift to ethanol? Wouldn't think the bastards would be doing it to counter global warming.

[scared?]

hydrogen won't work either...don't worry...right before we run out of oil, zero point energy will amazingly be discovered...or we r fucked...

[seremtan]

http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Scarborough_Americans_will_support_attack_on_0827.html
Pat Buchanan: Democrats will fall in line with 'popular' war on Iran

yep, retards will always fall for the same trick, no matter how many times it's pulled

they're right about the dems though. what a bunch of worthless pantywaists

[Nightshade]

hydrogen won't work either...don't worry...right before we run out of oil, zero point energy will amazingly be discovered...or we r fucked...

OK Dr. Geoof, tell us why hydrogen 'won't work'.

[scared?]

u mean u don't know idiot? it's called 'the laws of physics'...converting hydrogen into usable energy takes a shitload of energy in the form of water, natural gas and biomass...it's less than 25% efficient...natural gas and usable water is already running out...r u some kind of moron?...

[Duhard]

carved

[seremtan]

u mean u don't know idiot? it's called 'the laws of physics'...converting hydrogen into usable energy takes a shitload of energy in the form of water, natural gas and biomass...it's less than 25% efficient...natural gas and usable water is already running out...r u some kind of moron?...

actually captain insensible here has a point - iirc hydrogen fuel cells cost more energy than you get out of them, at least with current technology

just hook up a generator to plained's wheelchair and the spinning corpses of the founders (combined with a form of fusion) and america has all the energy it'll ever need

[scared?]

911 kicked off the 'oil wars' as they will called in the future...

there's ur motive...

[Nightshade]

As I suspected, you're a fucking idiot. Oh wait, I already knew that.

[Nightshade]

u mean u don't know idiot? it's called 'the laws of physics'...converting hydrogen into usable energy takes a shitload of energy in the form of water, natural gas and biomass...it's less than 25% efficient...natural gas and usable water is already running out...r u some kind of moron?...

actually captain insensible here has a point - iirc hydrogen fuel cells cost more energy than you get out of them, at least with current technology

just hook up a generator to plained's wheelchair and the spinning corpses of the founders (combined with a form of fusion) and america has all the energy it'll ever need

There's efficiency, and there's 'murrrr...won't work'. Internal combustion engines are only about 20-25% efficient, they've lasted a while. There are non-petroleum sources of hydrogen available, ammonia for one, and the hydrogen technologies are moving along at a decent pace.
I myself prefer flywheel-based vehicles.

[scared?]

wow ur dumb nightshade...the hydrogen myth was exposed a long time ago...hydrogen is worse than oil...ammonia? rofl@themoron...

[scared?]

btw dipshit...it's only being pushed as a way to sell more hydrocarbons...and dumbos like u fall for the hype...rofl...

[Nightshade]

Wow, you are a non-reading dumbfuck, aren't you? Idiot.
The stoner dishpig giving a lecture on the state of hydrogen technology. Fucking rofl.

Hey dickhead, what's the formula for ammonia? You may be surprised what's in it.

[seremtan]

actually captain insensible here has a point - iirc hydrogen fuel cells cost more energy than you get out of them, at least with current technology

just hook up a generator to plained's wheelchair and the spinning corpses of the founders (combined with a form of fusion) and america has all the energy it'll ever need

There's efficiency, and there's 'murrrr...won't work'. Internal combustion engines are only about 20-25% efficient, they've lasted a while. There are non-petroleum sources of hydrogen available, ammonia for one, and the hydrogen technologies are moving along at a decent pace.
I myself prefer flywheel-based vehicles.

as i understand it, the main problem in alternative energy sources for vehicles is energy storage. the combustion engine stores fuel no problem because the refining process has already done all the hard work

in any case, no amount of energy green-ness will satisfy the more extreme environazis, who are more interested in taking us back to the seventeenth century than anything else

[Nightshade]

The ammonia-based solution to which I'm referring solves that problem. I think it was in a fairly recent issue of IEEE Spectrum. Quite ingenious, really.

[seremtan]

wow ur dumb nightshade...the hydrogen myth was exposed a long time ago...hydrogen is worse than oil...ammonia? rofl@themoron...

There are two primary uses for hydrogen today. About half is used to produce ammonia (NH3) via the Haber process, which is then used directly or indirectly as fertilizer. Because both the world population and the intensive agriculture used to support it are growing, ammonia demand is growing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_economy

rofl@thedumbass...

[seremtan]

converting hydrogen into usable energy takes a shitload of energy in the form of water, natural gas and biomass...it's less than 25% efficient...

Internal combustion engines are only about 20-25% efficient

Hydrogen has a high energy density by weight. The fuel cell is also more efficient than an internal combustion engine. The internal combustion engine is said to be 20-30% efficient, while the fuel cell is 35-45% efficient (some even higher) (not accounting for losses in the actual production of hydrogen, which would result in an overall efficiency of about 25%) and together with the electric motor and controller, the drive train overall efficiency approaches 24% with low idling losses.

[seremtan]

so, this war with iran... what's it all about..?

[scared?]

hydrogen is not a source of energy...only a carrier of energy...if u knew what that means u would know what a moron u r...

we will run out of oil...we use up the coal and then we r fucked...unless alien technology...CRUSHED...

[Nightshade]

For fuck's sake geoof, just stop.

[scared?]

wow...snappy come back clueless idiot...

[Nightshade]

Sorry to disappoint you dipshit, but you have (as usual) no fucking idea what you're talking about.