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Kucinich is the only man capable of fixing this clusterfuck and for that reason alone, the Administration will go out of its way to prevent his win. No doubt we'll see some Romney-Clinton hybrid continuing the agenda in 2008.
Nothing happening here in terms of protests IIRC, although the news here don't do any protest coverage to avoid angering the Big Boys in Washington.

Living in Alabama as a status symbol

i'm going to the boston rally, i already have my ron paul shirt ready. jellus?

Captain Mazda wrote:Ron Paul is the only man capable of fixing this clusterfuck...

fixed

scared? wrote:she actually misses dinner every nite...she studies 12 hours a day...i just fix it for me and the kids...jellus?...

She's probably at the "library" with her "study partner".


I'm glad a vast group of Americans finally decided to do something productive rather than just sitting on their asses and letting their politicians do whatever they want. If I lived in the states, I'd march.

obsidian wrote:She's probably at the "library" with her "study partner".

no no, that sounds improbable. more likely she's in a cheap motel getting her vagina smashed by a studmuffin hung like a champ and ten times the man geoff wishes he was

The only rally near me is over 4 hours away in the hill-people hinterregions of east Tennessee.

I'll be there in spirit. I am wondering if there are any gatherings closer to Nashville though.

talked to a bible nutter the other day. their opinion is that Bush won't, and shouldn't, give a rat's ass what anyone thinks because as Christians our job is to protect Israel regardless of how unpopular it might be. And if that means attacking Iran, so be it. Bible policies outweigh US foreign policies. And they think Bush will bomb Iran for that reason.

Is anyone familiar with Turkish Kemalist ideology, click me.

It's a rather interesting turn of events that occurred after the dissolution of the Ottoman empire, Turks took to a surprisingly progressive view of good governance as their ideal. Whereas the Middle East took to some secular policy, flirting with nationalism and socialism, before falling back on authoritarian leadership and a rise in Islamism (apologies for the use of this term, I mean to say Islam as institutional and moral guide).

I don't have an explanation for this, but I can speculate that it may have resulted from national introspection on the part of the Turks after WWI, whereas the relative decline of Islam pre-WWII in the Middle east was reversed with the creation of the state of Israel and the externalizing of national and individual focus to that geopolitical development. I wonder what a ME without the religiously galvanizing influence of an intractable 'holy land' dispute would look like today. Suffice it to say, my speculation centers on societal introspection where externalizing distractions don't gain traction.

Massive Quasars wrote:Whereas the Middle East took to some secular policy, flirting with nationalism and socialism, before falling back on authoritarian leadership and a rise in Islamism (apologies for the use of this term, I mean to say Islam as institutional and moral guide).

I don't have an explanation for this...

You make it sound like the people of these nations chose to have dictatorships. How does a theory, that the authoritarian leaderships came about as a result of foreign intervention, hold up if we look at historical evidence?

The rise in Islamism is probably a reaction to foreign influence on home soil.

You make it sound like the people of these nations chose to have dictatorships. How does a theory, that the authoritarian leaderships came about as a result of foreign intervention, hold up if we look at historical evidence?

The rise in Islamism is probably a reaction to foreign influence on home soil.

If I were to speculate (again), I'd say foreign intervention in the ME post-WWII can be tied in part to geopolitical circumstances surrounding Israel and the developing energy interests in that region.

To read my previous post as placing blame on the people is to misread what I said. Externalized focus at the expense of introspection and the consequences that might have followed from that... was my main thrust. No blame is explicitly assigned.

I don't know what the weight of historical evidence and the analysis of scholarly historians would say.

the boston protest was great. a huge turnout considering the non-stop rain. i took quite a few photots that i'll get up after i nap

looks like the fat cunt got himself locked up

Big Kahuna Burger wrote:the boston protest was great. a huge turnout considering the non-stop rain. i took quite a few photots that i'll get up after i nap

How many people?

Was this event reported in the media? Was Fox News bashing it?

'pet to impeach bush' balloon

that used up alot of carbs!

lol, fags

Big Kahuna Burger wrote:pics

nice one, good to see a lot of regular looking folks there.

Nice pics

GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a shitload of huge demonstrations scheduled in several cities in the US this Saturday to protest the Iraq (and upcoming Iran) wars. The demonstrations will be held in Boston, Chicago, Jonesborough, Tennessee, Los Angeles, New Orleans, New York City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, and Seattle. Let's hope they can break the record for the number of people participating in simultaneous protests (which was also against Bush before the Iraq war...and was global).

Anyone here going or are you just going to do the usual, apathetic-American thing: wash your car and compare your HDTV to your neighbor's?

Protesting does dick.

SOAPboy wrote: Protesting does dick.

For you...so does trying to think.

Emo fagg0t.

SOAPboy wrote:

GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a shitload of huge demonstrations scheduled in several cities in the US this Saturday to protest the Iraq (and upcoming Iran) wars. The demonstrations will be held in Boston, Chicago, Jonesborough, Tennessee, Los Angeles, New Orleans, New York City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, and Seattle. Let's hope they can break the record for the number of people participating in simultaneous protests (which was also against Bush before the Iraq war...and was global).

Anyone here going or are you just going to do the usual, apathetic-American thing: wash your car and compare your HDTV to your neighbor's?

Protesting does dick.

you can't really think that can you???

SOAPboy wrote:

GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a shitload of huge demonstrations scheduled in several cities in the US this Saturday to protest the Iraq (and upcoming Iran) wars. The demonstrations will be held in Boston, Chicago, Jonesborough, Tennessee, Los Angeles, New Orleans, New York City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, and Seattle. Let's hope they can break the record for the number of people participating in simultaneous protests (which was also against Bush before the Iraq war...and was global).

Anyone here going or are you just going to do the usual, apathetic-American thing: wash your car and compare your HDTV to your neighbor's?

Protesting does dick.

Here are some gentlemen who may disagree with you.

Our poor American friends are so utterly demoralised they have lost all faith in their political system. I can't say i blame them for that – I actually think you're probably correct, protesting won't do a goddamn thing. But i do blame you lazy bastards for not even trying. Jesus, why wouldn't you? It's a fun day out, you'll meet interesting people and you have absolutely nothing to lose.

Demonstrating is the final step before voting from the rooftops... and you don't really wanna end up having to express your political opinion in that most unnuanced of ways, do you?

Also - i think there's a certain cognitive dissonance in believing the system is so corrupt that protesting won't help and believing the elections of 2008 will be fair.

Ryoki wrote:Our poor American friends are so utterly demoralised they have lost all faith in their political system.

pretty much

Also - i think there's a certain cognitive dissonance in believing the system is so corrupt that protesting won't help and believing the elections of 2008 will be fair.

Who says we have any hope of it being fair? The last 2 elections weren't, why should this one be any different?