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xer0s wrote:Ya, you need to take a few deep breaths, Nightshade.

Blah blah blah. Perhaps you(along with the rest of the country) need to get irate about the Bush administration fucking this country up the ass.

So, based on your last post, you ARE saying that Mclellan wrote this book to make money, or just out of spite. So we have a guy that's a member of Bush's inner circle that decides to expose all the bullshit he's seen over the last several years, and you think that's he may doing it for something as petty as revenge? He's confirming what many sources have been saying since before the war, namely that it was all trumped-up horseshit, but you think that he's just pissed off because he can't get a job?

Interesting.

I don't know man. Some things aren't always what they seem.

"Scott, we now know, is disgruntled about his experience at the White House,''

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/po ... _scot.html

Dude, what the hell else would you expect them to say? What exactly would it take for you to understand that the Bush administration has been lying to the American people for years? I'm not bashing you here, I'm honestly interested in your answer.

It's just hard for me to believe that a man can work his way up to the top position of the most powerful country in the world and not have good intentions. Maybe his decisions were wrong or not well thought out. But I believe he thinks he is doing what is best for the American people. They may be the wrong actions, but it's hard to believe he and his staff straight up lie to us. I don't care what you say, to become president of the U.S., you have to be smart and sane. But your actions may not sync with what the majority of the people think is right.

xer0s wrote:It's just hard for me to believe that a man can work his way up to the top position of the most powerful country in the world and not have good intentions. Maybe his decisions were wrong or not well thought out. But I believe he thinks he is doing what is best for the American people. They may be the wrong actions, but it's hard to believe he and his staff straight up lie to us. I don't care what you say, to become president of the U.S., you have to be smart and sane. But your actions may not sync with what the majority of the people think is right.

I see politics as a dirty, dirty business. So in order to rise to the top of the heap in politics, you'd have to be the dirtiest player in the game. Keep in mind that even if a majority of people think something is right, that alone doesn't make it 'right'. Bush seems like he was half elected by the people, and half elected as the front man for our government, to take the blame.

edits = completed thoughts

Well, I don't think that Bush was necessarily out to rule the world Pinky and The Brain style, but I definitely disagree with your contention that he's a smart man. His personal characteristics are a different argument altogether, but I will say that I've seen plenty written that shows he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
The more I've learned about his administration, the less I think he's responsible for. The people behind him are the ones that bother me. I think he's become nothing more than a meatpuppet for Cheney, et al.
See, I firmly believe that the government lies to us, and they've been doing it for years. Tuskegee, Agent Orange, etc., etc. I think that there are a lot of decent people with good intentions in government, but I think that there are a lot more self-serving douchebags. I do NOT trust the government. Join the military, you won't either.
The other thing is that no, Bush's actions don't sync with what the majority (or international and domestic laws) think is right, but he doesn't give a fuck. Someone needs to slap him upside the head and remind him that he works for the people and that he has no right whatsoever to continue to thumb his nose at what America thinks about his policies. He's basically told us to go fuck ourselves for almost 8 years.

I also get a laugh out of people thinking that things like corruption and election fraud only occur in other countries. What? Baselessly disqualifying eligible voters? That shit only happens in South America and Africa. We don't need any fucking election monitors, we're AMURRICA!

You have to remember that they know things that we don't know and shouldn't know. If they think its best for us, then there is a good chance that it is. That's the way it should be done. But it may not be done that way at the moment.

xer0s wrote:I don't care what you say, to become president of the U.S., you have to be smart and sane. But your actions may not sync with what the majority of the people think is right.

A president has to behave undemocratic?

xer0s wrote:You have to remember that they know things that we don't know and shouldn't know. If they think its best for us, then there is a good chance that it is. That's the way it should be done. But it may not be done that way at the moment.

spoken like a true authoritarian follower...

If we knew everything they knew, we would shit ourselves and the country would fall apart within a month.

xer0s wrote:You have to remember that they know things that we don't know and shouldn't know. If they think its best for us, then there is a good chance that it is. That's the way it should be done. But it may not be done that way at the moment.

Oh jesus fucking christ. You're Britney Spears.

xer0s wrote:If we knew everything they knew, we would shit ourselves and the country would fall apart within a month.

Speak for yourself.

While there may be some measure of truth in the book, it reeks more of Jose Canseco than anything else. It also seems alot less of an attack of conscious, and more of a man out of work for the past 2 years and needs a payday. The best part about this "tell all book" is that the only people who are likely to buy and read this are the nut job lefties. The Bush supporters will dismiss it as baseless, and the moderates will most likely ignore it as a blatantly opportunistic attempt to make money. The beauty of the book is the fact that the ones with the most rabid hatred of Brush and Co. will be the ones buying it.

Why so much grandstanding? Its not as if politicians arent well trained liars. They are nothing more than lawyers who make the laws. Furthermore, just like a lawyer, their only function is bending the truth in an attempt to get you to see it how they want it seen. Bill Clinton's presidency was not exactly a bastion of integrity either, but much was largely overlooked because people had money in their pockets, which goes a long way towards soothing that little "i want the truth" nerve. I guarantee that if the economy were better, there would be a lot less noise being made, and people would be much more willing to overlook things.

Fuck off, Fullowshits.

'attack of conscious'

BlowJobLips wrote:.

See NS, some people have no problem with being repeatedly lied to. They say it's okay because everybody else has lied to them too.

Nightshade wrote:Fuck off, Fullowshits.

'attack of conscious'

Meh, multitasking = lose. Aside from the horrid typo, why the hostility? Did I kick your soap box out from under you?

Nightshade just needs to calm the fuck down. Seriously. Calm down.

Hollowtips wrote:the moderates

i.e. people ready to agree with whoever the last person was who ranted at them

xer0s wrote:You have to remember that they know things that we don't know and shouldn't know. If they think its best for us, then there is a good chance that it is. That's the way it should be done. But it may not be done that way at the moment.

There is no way in anyones hell you can be serious. Wait a minute! Karl? Karl Rove?!! I think I just figured out who xer0s REALLY is.!

Peenyuh wrote:

c0ld wrote:.. Just forgot to hit submit..

democrat

touche


although let it be known I'm not on the D team

Hollowtips wrote:

Nightshade wrote:Fuck off, Fullowshits.

'attack of conscious'

Meh, multitasking = lose. Aside from the horrid typo, why the hostility? Did I kick your soap box out from under you?

I don't like stupid people.

Dark Metal wrote:Nightshade just needs to calm the fuck down. Seriously. Calm down.

The quality of your trolls has taken a nosedive as of late. You smoking the same shit geoof is?

Nightshade wrote:
I don't like stupid people.

How very witty child. If your statement is indeed true, how do you shave without cutting your throat?

Hollowtips wrote:

Nightshade wrote:
I don't like stupid people.

How very witty child. If your statement is indeed true, how do you shave without cutting your throat?

BAM! That looked like it hurt!