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put some of this in there if you want cooler temps http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp

Fuck...I never thought for an instant to put in high performance anti-freeze.

Jesus andy, do you dust very often?

I'm sure liquid cooling is a nice option regardless of oc'ing or not - and i don't disagree with the simple premise that cooler parts == longer lived parts. I'm confident that my $27 Arctic Cooling fan will keep this thing well enough cooled for as long as I'll use it. If I gamed more often and was putting the machine through hardcore work all the time, I'd definitely consider it. But for my usage, I just don't see the price really being worth it.

mix a bit of the water wetter with regular water for best performance, enough to turn it pink

tnf wrote:Jesus andy, do you dust very often?

i know i know..

Variation in temperature is a bigger issue than "heat", in most cases. It's better to keep it in a certain range, even if that range is a few degrees higher than your average when it varies a lot.

This is, in my opinion, the biggest argument for water cooling, running your PC 24/7, and even running a distributed computing client when idle, all of which keep your processor at a more "normalized" temperature.

creep wrote:Variation in temperature is a bigger issue than "heat", in most cases. It's better to keep it in a certain range, even if that range is a few degrees higher than your average when it varies a lot.

Which is why I've heard (due to cold components warming up quickly) that the worst thing you can do to your computer is to turn it on.

One of the things I've noticed in all liquid cooling reviews is the temperature difference between idle and full load...it's pretty much the same temp with water cooling while most fan coolers have the CPUs running 20 C hotter under load than idle.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:

creep wrote:Variation in temperature is a bigger issue than "heat", in most cases. It's better to keep it in a certain range, even if that range is a few degrees higher than your average when it varies a lot.

Which is why I've heard (due to cold components warming up quickly) that the worst thing you can do to your computer is to turn it on.

One of the things I've noticed in all liquid cooling reviews is the temperature difference between idle and full load...it's pretty much the same temp with water cooling while most fan coolers have the CPUs running 20 C hotter under load than idle.

indeed! i had my TT Big water SE on my Athlon 64 3200+ clocked at 2300mhz, and my idle would be 28, and my load would be 32... it was great.

andyman wrote:mix a bit of the water wetter with regular water for best performance, enough to turn it pink

De-ionized water, actually... Not just Tap/distilled water.. Well, unless you want your water cooling parts to rot..

i've been meaning to put my water setup in my main box, thats not much of an issue atm due to my mobo being off on a RMA... yay!

Well, no fucking amount of pushing and forcing it would make that arctic cooling thing lock down - even going diagonal, each time one plastic nub would lock down another would pop out. I took the mobo out to try and still no luck, the problem was the pins just didn't line up PERFECTLY with the holes, so there was always a bit of angular force pulling then inwards a tad. I tried until I almost (if not definitely) damaged the board. Gave up, now the processor has the pre-applied thermal goop from the arctic cooling fan already on it. I just went ahead and threw the stock fan on for now. I left the thermal paste on there for now and may now be looking at another cooling solution. I am so pissed off at that fan right now I cannot see straight.

tnf wrote: I'm confident that my $27 Arctic Cooling fan will keep this thing well enough cooled for as long as I'll use it.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

Since we are on the topic of PC parts.
Right now I have a BFG GeForce 8800GTX OC 600MHZ 768MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out HDCP DIRECTX10 Video Card.
I think the place I ordered it from no longer has them, since I've been waiting almost 5 weeks for it.
Thanks god I have one already.

Anyways I might tell them to send me 2 BFG GeForce 9600GT OCX 725MHZ 512MB 1.95GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card and keep the 8800 GTX for my server, or sell it.

2 of these would be nice:
BFG GeForce 9800GTX H2OC 780MHZ 512MB 2.32GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card, but then I think I'd have to upgrade my cooling system which would probably run around $400.

The 9600 are only $208 a piece and the later one is $389 each. I think I might go with the 9600 and get a 3rd one later one.
And my mother board in case you are wondering is a Maximus Extreme.

andyman wrote:

tnf wrote: I'm confident that my $27 Arctic Cooling fan will keep this thing well enough cooled for as long as I'll use it.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

Look up the reviews on it. Was very well received by all the places that benchmarked it.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:

andyman wrote:Have you considered liquid cooling?

pfft... Kits are for pussies:

tnf wrote:very well received

except the one place it mattered... your mobo

im just sayin... gl with it

i'll get another fan. and i'll use my computer just as long as I would and often as I would and for the same stuff as I would were I to pay for a liquid cooling system.

how's it goin TNF?

is the rest of it built?

Yea I'm using it right now as I update drivers and get the fan speed fix taken care of for the 4870.
Haven't installed any games on it yet.

Cool dude, post how you think of the videocards and what res/fps you're able to pull off.

Amidy has a hard on.

tnf wrote:Yea I'm using it right now as I update drivers and get the fan speed fix taken care of for the 4870.
Haven't installed any games on it yet.

rofl...ur slow...

i'm watching a 2 year old while doing all this.
i've been moving fast considering all the stopping to go 'side'.

hmm..my last pc i built...while watching a 3 year old, a 5 year old and an 11 year old took 15 minutes to build and an hour later i was owning on cod4...

so?

So he's saying the instant CoD4 was installed he forgot he had a fambly.

lol i have a family?...