anyone have any freelance jobs PHP for me in NL? :D

[mjrpes]

I like PHP... can't wait until lambda and closures becomes standard:

http://wiki.php.net/rfc/closures

Am currently focusing on jQuery... which is causing a 'paradigm shift' in the way my mind works because the organization is so different; but should be worth it as all signs point to jQuery being a framework that will last the long haul.

[Eraser]

I find PHP to be horrible to be honest. It usually looks like a mess, starting with the odd dot operator for concatenation.
Those Lambda functions feel very javascript-ish to me by the way.

[^misantropia^]

There's actually a good reason string concatenation uses a separate operator. Remember PHP is dynamically typed and let us for the sake of argument pretend the dot operator never existed. Take two variables $a and $b and do:

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$c = $a + $b;

Assume $a contains 'Hello, ' and $b 'world'. Everything works as expected, $c now contains 'Hello, world'. Fine. But what happens if $a and $b both contain, say, '21'?

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$c = $a + $b;

What is the value of $c now? 42? '2121'? You tell me.

[Eraser]

I realise that, Javascript has much the same problems. It's just that PHP seems like a messy language to me.

[R00k]

A friend of mine was over sunday watching the game and giving me a hand with my car, and since he's a professional devevloper I got him to show me a couple of things.

We didn't really get into PHP much unfortunately, but I did start to learn the benefits of client-side scripting with javaScript. Dynamically loading content by writing straight to the DOM elements, without reloading the page, is a pretty cool concept. It makes me want to learn AJAX too.

[Eraser]

There's not much to learn about AJAX. Just download the Prototype JS library and it'll do all the annoying stuff for you.

[MKJ]

truth

[Dave]

umm... Java?

or python for that matter...

[dmmh]

I've done function-oriented exclusively in Perl. I've done quite a bit of VBScript using WSH, but no object-oriented CGI before. It just seems somehow incongruent or weird to me.

well I was relucatant to switch from function to object oriented for the same reason for a really long time, I just didn't see how it made sense, but when I made the switch, I was glad I did.

[dmmh]

I hate to use this word, but thinking in OO is a paradigm shift. Before you get it, it is strange. After you get it, everything else seems clunky.

So I should stop being an old fogey set in my ways, and just give it a chance?

:yes: