Quake3World

I like PHP... can't wait until lambda and closures becomes standard:

http://wiki.php.net/rfc/closures

Am currently focusing on jQuery... which is causing a 'paradigm shift' in the way my mind works because the organization is so different; but should be worth it as all signs point to jQuery being a framework that will last the long haul.

I find PHP to be horrible to be honest. It usually looks like a mess, starting with the odd dot operator for concatenation.
Those Lambda functions feel very javascript-ish to me by the way.

There's actually a good reason string concatenation uses a separate operator. Remember PHP is dynamically typed and let us for the sake of argument pretend the dot operator never existed. Take two variables $a and $b and do: Assume $a contains 'Hello, ' and $b 'world'. Everything works as expected, $c now contains 'Hello, world'. Fine. But what happens if $a and $b both contain, say, '21'? What is the value of $c now? 42? '2121'? You tell me.

I realise that, Javascript has much the same problems. It's just that PHP seems like a messy language to me.

A friend of mine was over sunday watching the game and giving me a hand with my car, and since he's a professional devevloper I got him to show me a couple of things.

We didn't really get into PHP much unfortunately, but I did start to learn the benefits of client-side scripting with javaScript. Dynamically loading content by writing straight to the DOM elements, without reloading the page, is a pretty cool concept. It makes me want to learn AJAX too.

There's not much to learn about AJAX. Just download the Prototype JS library and it'll do all the annoying stuff for you.

truth

Fender wrote:umm... Java?

or python for that matter...

R00k wrote:I've done function-oriented exclusively in Perl. I've done quite a bit of VBScript using WSH, but no object-oriented CGI before. It just seems somehow incongruent or weird to me.

well I was relucatant to switch from function to object oriented for the same reason for a really long time, I just didn't see how it made sense, but when I made the switch, I was glad I did.

R00k wrote:

Fender wrote:I hate to use this word, but thinking in OO is a paradigm shift. Before you get it, it is strange. After you get it, everything else seems clunky.

So I should stop being an old fogey set in my ways, and just give it a chance?

:yes: