got sick of vista, installed ubuntu tonight

[Fender]

wow... rhythmbox seems to work perfectly
imported my existing DB from windows host drive
sync'd a new album over to my iPod

[Zyte]

So.. no regrets on switching os's so far?

Im getting pretty ill from Vista as well but still hesitant to switch, windows is pretty much all i ever used actually.

Any major downsides except the hassle finding replacing apps?

[Fender]

I bounce back and forth. Vista for ripping/burning (too lazy to DeCSS under ubuntu), when my wife gets pics from our digi-cam, and general game playing.

Use ubuntu pretty much all other times.

If I can upgrade Vista to 7 for $50, I might drop ubuntu. No need for it really. And in spite of being a geek and being technically able to do this stuff, I really don't want to anymore. I just want my computer to work. Linux is closer than the last time I used it exclusively (mid to late q3 lifetime), but still not quite there. Wife acceptance factor is pretty high, which is nice.

[^misantropia^]

I use Linux exclusively but I'm probably atypical as I also work professionally with it. I don't use Ubuntu but Debian testing, btw. Less polished, more bare bones.

[Fender]

I use both @ work, CentOS and WinXP.

[Deathshroud]

Yea, my biggest complaints about Linux are just the normal every day stuff like, flash support is awful, and little to no native game support.

The best part about linux is definitely its ability to be customized in a million different ways. Too bad the support for every day desktop needs just aren't there.

[Fender]

I really haven't much trouble w/ flash, except CPU usage being a bit high.

[obsidian]

Flash works fine for me too. And the only real issue with games support has to do with Direct X. Many OpenGL games work fine for Linux (including most id Tech 3 and 4 games).

[Deathshroud]

A lot of flash based sites don't render correctly in Linux, and some flash players with HD content just will not work properly for me. I realize Direct X is the biggest issue with game support, but that really doesn't change anything. It seems like no developers are turning to OpenGL these days, other than the obvious (id).

[Silicone_Milk]

Slight bump...
I used to run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on a Windows XP machine. I'm in the middle of wiping my laptop and slapping Debian on it.

(Reformatting 30 gigs is a surprisingly long task)

EDIT @ 2:38 AM - just finished installing and finally logged in. Damn.

[^misantropia^]

How are you liking it so far, Silicone_Milk? Let me know if you run into any speed bumps. I'm a Debian user too, I might be able to help out.

[Silicone_Milk]

Im diggin it. I have the entire harddrive using an encrypted LVM with a home, root, and swap partition. Being on a laptop, I almost didn't bother with LVM but since I'll be carting this around in public I figure I might as well have the last laugh if this thing gets stolen and the thief can't get in to the hard drive

Just installed g++. Do you know of any lightweight C/C++ IDEs for Debian that have something akin to Visual Studio's Intellisense?

Also, are there any software you would recommend for programming-centered system?

[^misantropia^]

Well, lightweight it ain't but Eclipse with the C/C++ plugin is all I need to get by (the low-cal alternative is vim + ctags). Get it from eclipse.org and not from apt, the repository version is lagging one or two major releases behind.

Development tools? You won't want to do without gdb and valgrind when you're developing C/C++ applications. First is a debugger, the second is a memory leak / bounds checker. Lifesavers, both.

gdb integrates nicely into Eclipse with the aforementioned plugin, btw.

[Silicone_Milk]

I'll go ahead and check out Eclipse. I tried it once for Java I think... was at least 4 years ago.

Development tools are exactly what I meant when asking about software heh Brilliant. Thanks man. I'll get them installed after I load up on some coffee.

[Silicone_Milk]

Hmm... having to futz around with ndiswrapper and getting smacked with a missing kernel header error message. I remember I had issues before with linksys wireless cards. I wonder why it's so difficult to get this bastard working =\

[^misantropia^]

What's the error message?

[Silicone_Milk]

it's no biggie. Just finished fixing it. It was "bad luck, the kernel headers could not be found" or something along those lines.

ran module-assistant prepare and it patched it right up. Just finished building ndiswrapper's source too. Let's see if I can get this to work before I head off to the lab.

[Silicone_Milk]

im irritated and pissed now. Followed 90.4 million manuals and still can't get the card working. ndiswraper module is said to be installed and loaded in to the kernel and the wireless driver claims to be installed as well but the fucking system won't see the card.

No idea on how to solve this.

[bitWISE]

Just updated my ubuntu vm on the macbook to 9.10. Runs and looks stellar.

[+JuggerNaut+]

Just updated my ubuntu vm on the macbook to 9.10. Runs and looks stellar.

same on my notebook and desktop, very nice

[U4EA]

I didn't think 9.10 was out until the end of the month?

[obsidian]

It's officially out on the 28th but the "pretty much final" beta is out and running pretty stable. This is the final build unless they find any last minute changes.

It may be a good idea to update now before the actual final version goes live and their servers get swamped, any other changes will just automatically update for you anyway.

I updated on my laptop last night. Boot and shutdown performance is now amazingly improved.

To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '9.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.

[U4EA]

Oh, right. I'm just gonna do a clean install on a spare machine anyway, so it's all good. As well, my ISP is one of the Australian hosts for Ubuntu so I should be able to get it fairly quickly within a day or so of release.

[bitWISE]

Ended up going with a triple-boot of Kubuntu. KDE 4.3 is mindblowingly cool.

[^misantropia^]

New laptop, Karmic Koala, graphics cranked up to 11. Now I'm doing nothing but ooh-ing at the wobbly windows all day. =)