A little bit of history

[^misantropia^]

Oh yeah and that flamethrower never made it past the IHV either did it?

Nope. Would have loved it though.

[Eraser]

Dunno, they said it just didn't work gameplay-wise, so I'm not sure if it would've been an improvement if we had it.

[^misantropia^]

What? Toasting the newbs, then pummeling their charred corpses? What's not to love?

[MKJ]

how exactly would it differ from the lightning gun i wonder.
apart from particles

[menkent]

if it's like the flamethrower that was in TF, it would be like a LG that sets them on fire so they keep taking damage for a few seconds after getting hit.

[Foo]

if it's like the flamethrower that was in TF, it would be like a LG that sets them on fire so they keep taking damage for a few seconds after getting hit.

Then I can see why they cut it, wouldn't fit with the flow of Q3.

[Dessicated corpse]

Bump! All my Quake pre's..

Quake
QTest 0.1 - http://www.fileshack.com/file_download.x/17307#

Quake II
Q2Test - http://205.196.120.94/ilcmmfmidvyg/0000 ... mo-x86.exe

Quake III Arena

Quake III Arena IHV Leak - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... ha/Ihv.zip
Q3Test 1.01 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... 32_x86.zip
Q3Test 1.03 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... erver1.zip
Q3Test 1.03 Update - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... pdate1.zip
Q3Test 1.05 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... t_1_05.exe
Q3Test 1.06 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... t_1_06.exe
Q3Test 1.06-1.07 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... _06-07.exe
Q3Test 1.07 - http://download815.mediafire.com/ubxyls ... 2_1_07.exe
Q3Test 1.08 - http://www.tricorponline.com/phox/Phoxf ... 2_1_08.exe
Q3Test 1.09 - http://freebsd.quadspeed.com/wanadoo/ga ... moTEST.exe

100% real! I hope this helps someone.

By the way, please don't ban me for giving out illegal versions D=.

And here's a few links to some early Quake 3 images...

http://nostalgia.poweredbylasers.com/ca ... &gameNo=13
http://nostalgia.poweredbylasers.com/ca ... &gameNo=14
http://nostalgia.poweredbylasers.com/ca ... e&gameNo=0

[Eraser]

When watching the IHV video, it's funny that a lot of the bits built for the IHV eventually made it into the game as full maps.

[Dessicated corpse]

I think Quake 3 was so much better during its development but everyone likes it at its current state, Quake Live, which sucks. I want a full early version of Quake 3, not the leak, doesn't give much of a story. As far as I know there were many more maps, different textures (more textures), player models, weapon models, more weapons perhaps (flamethrower), etc, even the architecture was better. But everyone will hate that. Have any of you seen the early sarge and visor models? They were awesome!

Here's a video of Quake III Arena Alpha. It is NOT the IHV LEAK! It's a video of the FULL GAME. You can see because there's a visor model, different effects and lighting and different the map layout is different. Don't get tricked.

[Eraser]

That is the IHV actually.
As for the rest of your post, I think everyone here agrees that the early versions of Quake 3 looked far more interesting than how it went to retail. Everyone liked the hellish gothic look. However, when you load up the IHV or any of the Q3Tests right now, you'll notice that the physics are really wonky and things just feel wrong (movement mostly).

[Dessicated corpse]

Trust me, it isn't the IHV. When I played the IHV there was no visor model, the particle effects were different and the KM_Portal map had a different layout.
Actually I liked the IHV gameflow a lot better than the retail, it was sorta like the Quake 2 gameplay IMO, the only thing that sucked was in Q3Test when you strafe up the stairs and it stops you. And they could easily have the same gameplay from the retail game with the early versions.

[Eraser]

Well maybe there are some slight differences between the mac expo demo and the leaked IHV but it's a bit odd to call it a leak of "the full game" because clearly it's (almost) identical to the IHV and a long way from what Q3 turned out to be.

[Dessicated corpse]

Well, apparently that map KM_Portal was included in Quake 3 during its development but was lost in the retail. There is an image of the earlier version of the same map below, earlier than the leak (I think). You can tell it's not the leak, it's using the Quake 1 lava texture.

[Eraser]

I wish they held on to it. Those stained glass windows look great.

edit:
just a shame that in this pic, the texture is not aligned

[Dessicated corpse]

http://nostalgia.poweredbylasers.com/im ... dge-03.jpg

Wow, it's Q3Tourney3!

[Dessicated corpse]

Does anyone find this map familiar to the one from Quake Live? I had a map just like this for Quake 3 once, I think it's this map.

[^misantropia^]

pro-q3tourney7. It was released by id a couple of years after the original release of Q3A (In a PR or as a separate download? Can't remember).

[Dessicated corpse]

Oh yes, the map that was like The Edge from Quake 2. That images looks better than the one we have right now .

[Eraser]

It was a map that was built during development of Q3 but never made it into the final game. It never got the polish it needed either. Then when Fred Nilsson joined id Software he picked up the map, polished it and released it as free download. It was originally started as a homage to The Edge from Quake 2.

[^misantropia^]

And not to U2's lead guitarist? My illusions are shattered, I tell you. Shattered!

[Eraser]

lol, it might have been, who knows. The Quake 2 part was my own interpretation

[Dessicated corpse]

I get harassed for liking the earlier Quake 3 versions.