Doombrain

[Doombrain]

Oh, what's the difference between native, and compressed resolution?

Same kind of thing with digital cameras when they talk about 6.3 recorded pixels and 12.6 effective. Say your projector has an 800x600 native resolution but can display at a compressed resolution of 1024x768, it’s still only 800x600 but has interpolated extra pixels in, pixels that the projector is guessing the colour, size and location of. The plus point would be you can cover a wider area but the down size is your adding more digital noise into your image,. But for £200 quid I would have bought it as well.

[Nightshade]

Yeah.

[YourGrandpa]

Get the projection screen. You'll be much happier with the picture you get.

[Doombrain]

Get the projection screen. You'll be much happier with the picture you get.

not true, nothing beats a nice white wall. The only benefit from a screen is it looks cool when it comes down if it’s powered and you can put it where you like. Screens are not made out of any kind of space age shit that magically makes the image better, that’s just spin. Trust me I know. I’ve spoke to the team that designed our screens in Japan. All they can do is emulate the white point and let the projector do the rest. Plus it’s really fucking annoying when someone opens a window/door and your film makes you feel seasick.

[Pauly]

Do prisons have white walls? I thought they were a greenish colour.

[sys0p]

Oh, what's the difference between native, and compressed resolution?

Same kind of thing with digital cameras when they talk about 6.3 recorded pixels and 12.6 effective. Say your projector has an 800x600 native resolution but can display at a compressed resolution of 1024x768, it’s still only 800x600 but has interpolated extra pixels in, pixels that the projector is guessing the colour, size and location of. The plus point would be you can cover a wider area but the down size is your adding more digital noise into your image,. But for £200 quid I would have bought it as well.

I guess that means hdtv is out of the question on this model, fuck it. At least I got a good deal on the price.

[sys0p]

Do prisons have white walls? I thought they were a greenish colour.

I'll be questioning them about the walls once they have everything else sorted out. Can you believe they haven't got a garage to put my car in? Useless.

[Pauly]

Do prisons have white walls? I thought they were a greenish colour.

I'll be questioning them about the walls once they have everything else sorted out. Can you believe they haven't got a garage to put my car in? Useless.

Disgraceful. One other bit of advice: Don't bend down to plug in your projector.

[sys0p]

Fuck no, the only time I'll be bending down is when I want to have my asshole penetrated by another man.

[Pauly]

Good man. Cya in cell 12

[Nightshade]

Fuck no, the only time I'll be bending down is when I want to have my asshole penetrated by another man.

Buy a back brace then. :lol:

[Doombrain]

Oh, what's the difference between native, and compressed resolution?

Same kind of thing with digital cameras when they talk about 6.3 recorded pixels and 12.6 effective. Say your projector has an 800x600 native resolution but can display at a compressed resolution of 1024x768, it’s still only 800x600 but has interpolated extra pixels in, pixels that the projector is guessing the colour, size and location of. The plus point would be you can cover a wider area but the down size is your adding more digital noise into your image,. But for £200 quid I would have bought it as well.

I guess that means hdtv is out of the question on this model, fuck it. At least I got a good deal on the price.

More importantly, YGP was wrong, again.

[hate.]

Fuck no, the only time I'll be bending down is when I want to have my asshole penetrated by another man.

now this thread is interesting

i'm at full attention

[YourGrandpa]

Projection screens cost money. So every day we get emails asking, "Can't I just use a plain white wall and save the screen expense?" The answer is simple: Absolutely you can! And you can save money by putting regular gas in your Porsche also. It will run, you just won't get the best performance out of it.

Projection screens have optical coatings that enhance their reflective properties. White walls don't. You can certainly use a wall if you want to, and you will get a watchable image. However, compared to the image you'd get with a screen, highlights will not be as brilliant, contrast and color saturation will be reduced, and (depending largely on the texture of the wall) sharpness will be reduced as well. You will end up with an image that is not as good as your projector is capable of delivering.

Furthermore, one very important but often ignored benefit of a screen is not actually the screen, but the frame. A solid black frame around a video image substantially boosts the visual quality of the image itself. So unless you paint a black rectangle on your wall, by foregoing the screen you will lose this vital component in the overall visual experience.

Now, for those starting out with their first entry level home theater projector, a white wall is much better than nothing. Just make sure it is white. Don't paint it gray thinking you will replicate a Stewart Firehawk. You won't. The essential magic of the Firehawk is in its optical coating, not just the simple fact that it is gray. So if you paint your wall gray you will get an even duller image than you would by leaving it white--paint your wall black and you will get no image at all.

Think about this for a moment...you will probably upgrade projectors every few years, as you will DVD players, audio components, etc. But high quality projection screens will last a lifetime. So we'd suggest you think of it in terms of a lifetime investment. That means study your options, plan for it in your budget, then make the investment once and be done with it. If you are serious about good image quality, you will always

I'm very pleased with my recent change from a DIY painted screen (Icestorm 6) to a screen made from Ellie 1.2 gain matt-white screen material.

I have a projector (HT1100) with an iris to control the overall lumens output. In my situation, the increased brightness from the new screen allowed me to shut the iris right down to its minimum setting and maximum contrast ratio. The difference was quite noticeable. Even with the iris fully closed down, the image is brighter and punchier than the painted screen with iris at half-open setting. Black level looks substantially the same due to the increase in contrast ratio. The most pleasing aspect was the increased 3-dimensional depth to the picture which is now quite staggering on occasion.

The cost of screen material was £57.

I always find this painted wall/blackout blind/dedicated screen debate quite facinating, if only for the wide variety of differing views on the subject! I can only tell you about my experience. When I first got my PJ i used a blackout blind (6ft wide). The picture was pretty impressive. Aesthetically this wasn't very pleasing, so when I decorated my lounge I decided to get a proper screen. I ended up with a Draper Luma 6ft normal gain. When using this for the first time there picture was well....WOW!!! The difference between the two was unbelievable. Seriously, it was like I'd upgraded the PJ. The picture just came alive, almost 3D in appearence. It was, I kid you not, the best £200 I'd ever spent!

Given the variation in views on the subject, this is all IMHO of course! BUT, in my view, if you are even THINKING about getting a 'proper' screen, GO FOR IT!!!

The advantages of purchasing a screen:

1. Replicate real, modern day cinema. The purpose of "home Theater" is to make a true "home Theater", right?

2. Positive "gain". This means that a screen can appear to reflect more light than is projected. In other words an image can "gain" light when reflected back at the viewer. Brighness of a screen can also be measured by "foot lamberts".

3. Full color. A DLP projector produces more than 16 million colors and a proper screen is needed to feel the full impact.

4. "Black and white". The benefit of the high contrast ratio on a DLP projector is diminished when a proper surface is not used. The shades of gray during a dark alley movie scene are not discernable without a screen.

DB, you can't say that I'm wrong. You can only say we have different opinions. There are arguements that support both sides. Besides, screens aren't that expensive. So if you've got the money, why not get one?

[sys0p]

The price of a screen is fucking ridiculous. The ones I saw in the shops today were £150 upwards

[+JuggerNaut+]

The price of a screen is fucking ridiculous. The ones I saw in the shops today were £150 upwards

if you had a brand new DLPII i would say DEFINITELY get a screen, but being that the ACER was either used or a demo model AND the fact that you're not hardcore into the nuances of video, the visual result of a pre-made projector screen would most likely not warrant the $$ put into it. on the other hand, if you wanted to go the DIY route, that's certainly another option.

[YourGrandpa]

The price of a screen is fucking ridiculous. The ones I saw in the shops today were £150 upwards

What's that, like $300.00 U.S.? I didn't think you considered that alot. Besides, it's a small pirce to pay for a one time purchase and you'll have it for your next projector purchase if you decide to upgrade.

You can also build a screen and cut the costs. Do a little google search, I'm sure you'll find hundreds of "how to's".

[sys0p]

Nah fuck that, I bought this projector dirt cheap, so I'm not throwing money at it.

[blood.angel]

Two words.
Classroom whiteboard.

[YourGrandpa]

Nah fuck that, I bought this projector dirt cheap, so I'm not throwing money at it.

Oh well, you can always build one.

[Dark Metal]

You know, there is this paint that you can buy that's specificly designed for projectors...

[Doombrain]

Projection screens cost money. So every day we get emails asking, "Can't I just use a plain white wall and save the screen expense?" The answer is simple: Absolutely you can! And you can save money by putting regular gas in your Porsche also. It will run, you just won't get the best performance out of it.

Projection screens have optical coatings that enhance their reflective properties. White walls don't. You can certainly use a wall if you want to, and you will get a watchable image. However, compared to the image you'd get with a screen, highlights will not be as brilliant, contrast and color saturation will be reduced, and (depending largely on the texture of the wall) sharpness will be reduced as well. You will end up with an image that is not as good as your projector is capable of delivering.

Furthermore, one very important but often ignored benefit of a screen is not actually the screen, but the frame. A solid black frame around a video image substantially boosts the visual quality of the image itself. So unless you paint a black rectangle on your wall, by foregoing the screen you will lose this vital component in the overall visual experience.

Now, for those starting out with their first entry level home theater projector, a white wall is much better than nothing. Just make sure it is white. Don't paint it gray thinking you will replicate a Stewart Firehawk. You won't. The essential magic of the Firehawk is in its optical coating, not just the simple fact that it is gray. So if you paint your wall gray you will get an even duller image than you would by leaving it white--paint your wall black and you will get no image at all.

Think about this for a moment...you will probably upgrade projectors every few years, as you will DVD players, audio components, etc. But high quality projection screens will last a lifetime. So we'd suggest you think of it in terms of a lifetime investment. That means study your options, plan for it in your budget, then make the investment once and be done with it. If you are serious about good image quality, you will always

I'm very pleased with my recent change from a DIY painted screen (Icestorm 6) to a screen made from Ellie 1.2 gain matt-white screen material.

I have a projector (HT1100) with an iris to control the overall lumens output. In my situation, the increased brightness from the new screen allowed me to shut the iris right down to its minimum setting and maximum contrast ratio. The difference was quite noticeable. Even with the iris fully closed down, the image is brighter and punchier than the painted screen with iris at half-open setting. Black level looks substantially the same due to the increase in contrast ratio. The most pleasing aspect was the increased 3-dimensional depth to the picture which is now quite staggering on occasion.

The cost of screen material was £57.

I always find this painted wall/blackout blind/dedicated screen debate quite facinating, if only for the wide variety of differing views on the subject! I can only tell you about my experience. When I first got my PJ i used a blackout blind (6ft wide). The picture was pretty impressive. Aesthetically this wasn't very pleasing, so when I decorated my lounge I decided to get a proper screen. I ended up with a Draper Luma 6ft normal gain. When using this for the first time there picture was well....WOW!!! The difference between the two was unbelievable. Seriously, it was like I'd upgraded the PJ. The picture just came alive, almost 3D in appearence. It was, I kid you not, the best £200 I'd ever spent!

Given the variation in views on the subject, this is all IMHO of course! BUT, in my view, if you are even THINKING about getting a 'proper' screen, GO FOR IT!!!

The advantages of purchasing a screen:

1. Replicate real, modern day cinema. The purpose of "home Theater" is to make a true "home Theater", right?

2. Positive "gain". This means that a screen can appear to reflect more light than is projected. In other words an image can "gain" light when reflected back at the viewer. Brighness of a screen can also be measured by "foot lamberts".

3. Full color. A DLP projector produces more than 16 million colors and a proper screen is needed to feel the full impact.

4. "Black and white". The benefit of the high contrast ratio on a DLP projector is diminished when a proper surface is not used. The shades of gray during a dark alley movie scene are not discernable without a screen.

DB, you can't say that I'm wrong. You can only say we have different opinions. There are arguements that support both sides. Besides, screens aren't that expensive. So if you've got the money, why not get one?

i know dude, i'm just fishing

[YourGrandpa]

i know dude, i'm just fishing

Wrong pond.... :icon1:

[sys0p]

Gramps, is it easy to build one? What materials should I use if I want it to be removeable?

[sys0p]

Actually, nevermind, I just had the answer to all my prayers. I'm going to do absolutely nothing and hope something turns up.