Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:06 am
Meh. Just set cg_truelightning to 0 and learn to deal with the wet noodle effect.
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 3:48 am
They said theres gonna be a nailgun too, right? When you think of the nailgun, lightning gun, and railgun, BAM you think of the quake series... the most unique and memorable weapons from any FPS. All of them back in the same game should be sweet as hell.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:37 am
sorry, not mirroring you sucking Doombrain's c*ck. f@ggot.reefsurfer wrote:wow, his sidekick the suck up just entered the battle....+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
you really told him. i bet he unregistered himself.
*ignored*
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:40 am
lol should i post the screenshots :icon19:reefsurfer wrote:Yea, but ofcourse.. how stupid i am, a guy with 190+ ping can handle the LG sooo much better than a guy with 20 ping...Duhard wrote:
I agree and everyone else with some skills would agree...as usual, reefsurfer is a fucking moron.
gtfo cunt.
LG is all ping..
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:45 am
I disagree. I think if they left it out and kept instead the RL, PG, MG, Shotgun (especially), GL and RG (am i missing any) there would be much better balance IMO. Ive seen a lot of high level videos where it seemed like the players would just use the lightning gun as much as possible. They would drain life so quickly with that weapon.Duhard wrote:I agree and everyone else with some skills would agree...as usual, reefsurfer is a fucking moron.r3t wrote:What's wrong with the lightninggun? IMO it's one of the better weapons in Quake III; it requires skill to use effectively and it just looks cool.
In fact the first demo I ever saw of Q3 was one where Julios was playing some folks on DM13 I believe. And in those series of matches, whoever had the lightning gun would pretty much dominate.
I think the shotgun as a short range weapon seems to be a much better fit in terms of balance with the rest of Q3's weapon arsenal.
Anyway, thats what I think. Then again, you were a much better Q3 player than me, Duhard. So maybe Im just talking of my ass but thats the way I saw it.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:57 am
reefsurfer wrote:You are so wrong there.... its not about skill, its about who has the lowest ping.r3t wrote:What's wrong with the lightninggun? IMO it's one of the better weapons in Quake III; it requires skill to use effectively and it just looks cool.
that applies to every weapon...
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:31 am
We've been over this a 100 times, no the shaft isn't unbalanced in any way. Trust me.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:37 am
The LG is rather overpowered in VQ3 (even more so in QW/Q1) and you can indeed dominate the map with it. In CPMA, it's been turned down a notch and that results in a shift to RL and PG. I've never been a fan of the PG since it's mostly a spam weapon; the LG at least requires some skill to use. But I do think iD/Raven will do wise to weaken it a little in Q4.Chupacabra wrote:I disagree. I think if they left it out and kept instead the RL, PG, MG, Shotgun (especially), GL and RG (am i missing any) there would be much better balance IMO. Ive seen a lot of high level videos where it seemed like the players would just use the lightning gun as much as possible. They would drain life so quickly with that weapon.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:04 am
Actually, that there's a lightning gun is the best news I've gotten about Q4 yet, I think. 
Whatever helps it play like Quake III in multiplayer is welcome, in my opinion.
Whatever helps it play like Quake III in multiplayer is welcome, in my opinion.Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:57 am
I like the lightning gun. I'm glad it's in there.
And fuck off o'dium.
And fuck off o'dium.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:47 am
Quake 3 had "such and such" because it was a mix, a balanve of Q1, Q2 and Q3. It was a MP ONLY game and it had to take the best of the rest.
Q2 is a SP AND MP game. So it should follow Quake 2. They are chaning to much on the weapons side of things, why add a lighting gun?
Not to mention it will either look shit, or kill your FPS, in a per pixel engine.
Q2 is a SP AND MP game. So it should follow Quake 2. They are chaning to much on the weapons side of things, why add a lighting gun?
Not to mention it will either look shit, or kill your FPS, in a per pixel engine.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:07 pm
You talking about rendering is rather funny.o'dium wrote:Not to mention it will either look shit, or kill your FPS, in a per pixel engine.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:20 pm
Its true. Why do you think when the archvile in doom 3 causes a big slow down? Fragment program + intersecting point lights + blended particles = performance loss.inolen wrote:You talking about rendering is rather funny.o'dium wrote:Not to mention it will either look shit, or kill your FPS, in a per pixel engine.
Do you think a lightning gun will be any different? It will be worse because it can be done at any time.
So, i'm right. Either they make the effect look bad to help frame rate, or willits isn't talking out of his arse for once and it looks good, but kills your frame rate.
Pick.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:28 pm
lol, if only id/raven had you at the helm eh?
then they could benefit from your years of experience making fantastic games.
then they could benefit from your years of experience making fantastic games.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:31 pm
TBH, yes, they could. At least i could tell them their weapons all look shite and nothing like the original ones.
But hey, dont worry about it.
But hey, dont worry about it.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:34 pm
Grudge wrote:And fuck off o'dium.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:40 pm
i doubt the LG will be horrid (i don't mind it at all), and i think they will notice when the framerate drops shiteloads, or when it looks ugly... the article was great btw
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:10 pm
Do you actually read the steaming piles of horseshit you drop here?o'dium wrote:TBH, yes, they could. At least i could tell them their weapons all look shite and nothing like the original ones.
But hey, dont worry about it.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:13 pm
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Yes, i do. Now i've said i like the sound of the gameplay, ive said i even like the look of it now for the msot part, its aver yattractive game. I just dont agree with the design of the weapons at all, and some of the monsters.Nightshade wrote:Do you actually read the steaming piles of horseshit you drop here?o'dium wrote:TBH, yes, they could. At least i could tell them their weapons all look shite and nothing like the original ones.
But hey, dont worry about it.
Sorry chump, next time you click on a thread by "o'dium" called "Quake 4 just went downhill again" you might want to not shock yourself with the fact it MAY JUST CONTAIN NEGATIVE THINGS? Although i am sorry that i hold a gun to your head and force you to read my posts, really i am.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:31 pm
:lol:o'dium wrote:TBH, yes, they could. At least i could tell them their weapons all look shite and nothing like the original ones.
But hey, dont worry about it.
I love o'dium.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:36 pm
They're all my sidekicks cause they know I'm right...are you gonna ignore the whole fucking board just because you're too much of a pussy to realize that you're not making any sense?reefsurfer wrote:wow, his sidekick the suck up just entered the battle....+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
you really told him. i bet he unregistered himself.
*ignored*
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:39 pm
It's easy...the q3 lightning gun is a gun of skillz...it seperates real men from fartsniffers like reefsurfer.Chupacabra wrote:I disagree. I think if they left it out and kept instead the RL, PG, MG, Shotgun (especially), GL and RG (am i missing any) there would be much better balance IMO. Ive seen a lot of high level videos where it seemed like the players would just use the lightning gun as much as possible. They would drain life so quickly with that weapon.Duhard wrote:I agree and everyone else with some skills would agree...as usual, reefsurfer is a fucking moron.r3t wrote:What's wrong with the lightninggun? IMO it's one of the better weapons in Quake III; it requires skill to use effectively and it just looks cool.
In fact the first demo I ever saw of Q3 was one where Julios was playing some folks on DM13 I believe. And in those series of matches, whoever had the lightning gun would pretty much dominate.
I think the shotgun as a short range weapon seems to be a much better fit in terms of balance with the rest of Q3's weapon arsenal.
Anyway, thats what I think. Then again, you were a much better Q3 player than me, Duhard. So maybe Im just talking of my ass but thats the way I saw it.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:08 pm
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:09 pm
lol