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Kracus wrote:Actualy those controllers really do look like shit... That D pad looks awful

What do you expect, nintendo hold the patent on a true, decent d-pad, like back in the "old days", or on a SP/DS.

o'dium wrote:Xenon is still able to play old xbox games.

As for batteries, dont worry, see the bottom of that pad shot? looks like you will be able to charge it like a mobile phone. Not a dock i know, but better than nothing.

Two things:
one dont you think that the plug is for the headset?
two If its backwards compatable, then most of the hacks/exploits would still be able to work ( Change a few things ofcorse )

AmIdYfReAk wrote:

o'dium wrote:Xenon is still able to play old xbox games.

As for batteries, dont worry, see the bottom of that pad shot? looks like you will be able to charge it like a mobile phone. Not a dock i know, but better than nothing.

Two things:
one dont you think that the plug is for the headset?
two If its backwards compatable, then most of the hacks/exploits would still be able to work ( Change a few things ofcorse )

Well, its possible they ditched old games but thats a bad move TBH. PS2 didn't suffer from "hacks" etc and it still played old games?

As for the pad, yes, thats possible. But still, that would be a bit sucky

I forgot the PS2 is backwards compatible. I feeling like picking up Tomb Raider again.

FragaGeddon wrote:I forgot the PS2 is backwards compatible. I feeling like picking up Tomb Raider again.

f*cker.

o'dium wrote:Xenon is still able to play old xbox games.

And what makes you so sure? I still think it's highly improbable.

SplishSplash wrote:

o'dium wrote:Xenon is still able to play old xbox games.

And what makes you so sure? I still think it's highly improbable.

Well, the xbox rep that i talk to said that M$ had shifted BIG BUCKS into making sure this would stay. I find it a strange choice to put so much money into something and then just say "nah forget it".

Its a great move if it DOES play old box games. But even if they did just say "forget it" i guess it wouldn't be a huge waste of cash. Its M$ after all.

AmIdYfReAk wrote: one dont you think that the plug is for the headset?

no, the headset is wireless.

Even the headset it wireless? Sweet, very, very sweet. Battery intensive, but sweet. No more wires.

But again, some kind of dock NEEDS to be added.

o'dium wrote:Even the headset it wireless? Sweet, very, very sweet. Battery intensive, but sweet. No more wires.

But again, some kind of dock NEEDS to be added.

it's a fact something had to be done with the wires. ever been to someones house with 8 people or even four playing splitscreen? fucking wires all over everything, people tripping on em, etc....

im sure they will have some kind of charging system.

yea, but now if you are runnign two Xbox's beside eachother, then how will each xbox know what controler belongs to waht?

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, but now if you are runnign two Xbox's beside eachother, then how will each xbox know what controler belongs to waht?

some kind of mac addy?

shadd_. wrote:

o'dium wrote:Even the headset it wireless? Sweet, very, very sweet. Battery intensive, but sweet. No more wires.

But again, some kind of dock NEEDS to be added.

it's a fact something had to be done with the wires. ever been to someones house with 8 people or even four playing splitscreen? fucking wires all over everything, people tripping on em, etc....

im sure they will have some kind of charging system.

I've played a 4man xbox live game, each with headsets... Its not possible... Its just fucking crazy... You either pull your wire out, or somebody trips up over the mess...

Very wrong...

I'm all for wireless after i brought my wavebird. Pad owns. But i DO see a problem with batteries. My wavebird lasts for 100 hours on its batteries. Thats not so bad to only have to recharge every 100 hours, is it?

shadd_. wrote:

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, but now if you are runnign two Xbox's beside eachother, then how will each xbox know what controler belongs to waht?

some kind of mac addy?

Nah you just choose what player you are like most games these days with the controler in your hand the computer assings each one a port and voila. Problem solved.

shadd_. wrote:

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, but now if you are runnign two Xbox's beside eachother, then how will each xbox know what controler belongs to waht?

some kind of mac addy?

Easy. On the wavebird, you get to pick what channel your pad and reciever are, and you get 16 channels. so 1 pad is 1, 2 pad is 2, headset 1 is 3 etc etc etc...

yea, but trust me, i see a problem when there are 2 consoles in the mix, as well as ~4-8 people.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, but trust me, i see a problem when there are 2 consoles in the mix, as well as ~4-8 people.

4 players a console. 2 consoles. 4 headsets a console.

Thats 8 pads in total, and 8 headsets in total.

Pad 1/1 uses channel 1
Pad 2/1 uses channel 2
Pad 3/1 uses channel 3
Pad 4/1 uses channel 4
Pad 1/2 uses channel 5
Pad 2/2 uses channel 6
Pad 3/2 uses channel 7
Pad 4/2 uses channel 8
Headset 1/1 uses channel 9
Headset 2/1 uses channel 10
Headset 3/1 uses channel 11
Headset 4/1 uses channel 12
Headset 1/2 uses channel 13
Headset 2/2 uses channel 14
Headset 3/2 uses channel 15
Headset 4/2 uses channel 16

So incase i'm being VERY dumb, i cant see 8 players on 2 xboxes each with headsets being a problem? The only problem is settings up all the channels? but that only needs to be done once

i know that, but this is not what im getting at.. im saying between the two consoles, how do you know what one you are going to join when you are teaming up with two consoles in the same area? say side to side?

because say like halo, when you need to press A to join a team.. the controller will be assigned to the console, But what if both consoles are waiting for someone to press a, and the controller is in range of both consoles.

then what?

im more concerned with the price on these new consoles.

i think they are all gonne be fairly pricey. multiple cpu's, latest gpu's...

cha-ching$$$

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i know that, but this is not what im getting at.. im saying between the two consoles, how do you know what one you are going to join when you are teaming up with two consoles in the same area? say side to side?

because say like halo, when you need to press A to join a team.. the controller will be assigned to the console, But what if both consoles are waiting for someone to press a, and the controller is in range of both consoles.

then what?

Once again, you have 16 channels to assign. Only one player cna have 1 channel, and only on one xbox. so when timmy presses 1, it only works for HIS pad, not bills pad next to him. Unless of course they bodged the setup.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, but trust me, i see a problem when there are 2 consoles in the mix, as well as ~4-8 people.

Nah cause even with two consoles unless you're playing seperate the game would all be loaded together so the computer would know there's two consoles. The only problem I could think of is if you had two consoles playing say one single player game that two people are playing.

shadd_. wrote:im more concerned with the price on these new consoles.

i think they are all gonne be fairly pricey. multiple cpu's, latest gpu's...

cha-ching$$$

Duh. Prices drop. PS2 was HOW MUCH when it came out? £350 was it? And then £30 for a memory card? HA!

So yeah it will be expensive, but they WILL drop sooner or later.

you know what? we are both not getting the message acrosss. its allright man, ill jut wait for the damned thing to come out.

o'dium wrote:

shadd_. wrote:im more concerned with the price on these new consoles.

i think they are all gonne be fairly pricey. multiple cpu's, latest gpu's...

cha-ching$$$

Duh. Prices drop. PS2 was HOW MUCH when it came out? £350 was it? And then £30 for a memory card? HA!

So yeah it will be expensive, but they WILL drop sooner or later.

yeah but i don't wanna wait till the prices drop. :icon23:

AmIdYfReAk wrote:you know what? we are both not getting the message acrosss. its allright man, ill jut wait for the damned thing to come out.

lol, ok, eek.