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TruthfulLiar wrote:No one lies about pedos, not to get out of mordor... :paranoid:
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If he could beat the man to death he just as easily could've beat him within an inch of it and then called the authorities. rofl at you morons thinking instant capital punishment over an alleged and non fatal assault is cool. go fuck off back to your third world countries.
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No doubt the alpha-male wannabes would get a thrill out of this. Like all morons, they think the best solution to any problem is: "a brick".

No matter the trigger, if you beat someone to death with your bare hands there's a good chance you already had a screw loose. And if you're from Texas it's automatic that you've got a screw loose.
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and lol at that moron thinking the 'pedo' card would lay a big enough rug to sweep everything under.
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yeah, that's the amazing part.

still, though, could be true.

crazier shit has happened.
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Eraser wrote:He would've deserved a medal if he tied the pedo up and called the police. Repeatedly beating someone until said someone is dead is not an act of heroism.
Spoken like a spineless pansy with no kids.
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Eraser wrote: Even if there wasn't any doubt at all that the man was sexually harassing the girl, then it is still wrong to beat him to death or take any sort of retaliatory action.
Why? So you can put it in the hands of people that weren't there and don't know what really happened? Note here that I'm talking strictly about a case wherein you walk in on someone raping your toddler. In that scenario, you think the only acceptable course of action is to call the cops?

If you think that the legal system = justice, I've got some bad news for you. Besides, pedophiles don't get rehabilitated or cured, they will just assault some other kid when they get out of prison. Some people just need to be killed because they're useless pieces of shit that just contaminate the world.
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Nightshade wrote:
Eraser wrote:He would've deserved a medal if he tied the pedo up and called the police. Repeatedly beating someone until said someone is dead is not an act of heroism.
Spoken like a spineless pansy with no kids.
That statement is, at best, only half true
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Nightshade wrote:
Eraser wrote: Even if there wasn't any doubt at all that the man was sexually harassing the girl, then it is still wrong to beat him to death or take any sort of retaliatory action.
Why? So you can put it in the hands of people that weren't there and don't know what really happened? Note here that I'm talking strictly about a case wherein you walk in on someone raping your toddler. In that scenario, you think the only acceptable course of action is to call the cops?

If you think that the legal system = justice, I've got some bad news for you. Besides, pedophiles don't get rehabilitated or cured, they will just assault some other kid when they get out of prison. Some people just need to be killed because they're useless pieces of shit that just contaminate the world.
Spoken like an American.
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Please point out where I in any way defend (or even mention) the suspect in the linked article. I am not talking about that at all, I happen to think that killing someone in front of your four year-old is extremely fucked up.

Since Manpiss apparently just wants to be a dickhead and Eraser doesn't want to answer my question, you can both feel free to go fuck yourselves. Enjoy living a life spent depending on other people to right the wrongs in the world and fight your battles for you, you great slobbering vaginas.

PuFF, spoken like an American? Meh, maybe so. I'd say spoken like a man with a child. Again, I'd ask you to consider the case I specifically mentioned and answer my questions.
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Nightshade wrote:Some people just need to be killed because they're useless pieces of shit that just contaminate the world.
I completely agree with you regarding ped0s, bankers and hell...throw in anyone who aspires to be a reality tv star. I'd love to round them all up and slowly, painfully kill them all in one satisfying swoop as it would do humanity and the gene pool alot of good.

The problem is that isn't the way civilized societies are supposed to work.
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but what is civilised?
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Eraser wrote:
Nightshade wrote:Spoken like a spineless pansy with no kids.
That statement is, at best, only half true
So you've got kids?
Thick, solid and tight in all the right places.
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LawL wrote:
Eraser wrote:That statement is, at best, only half true
So you've got kids?
Bit slow on the uptake are you?
At least I've still got a hint of humour and self-mockery left in me.
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Nightshade wrote:Please point out where I in any way defend (or even mention) the suspect in the linked article. I am not talking about that at all, I happen to think that killing someone in front of your four year-old is extremely fucked up.

Since Manpiss apparently just wants to be a dickhead and Eraser doesn't want to answer my question, you can both feel free to go fuck yourselves. Enjoy living a life spent depending on other people to right the wrongs in the world and fight your battles for you, you great slobbering vaginas.

PuFF, spoken like an American? Meh, maybe so. I'd say spoken like a man with a child. Again, I'd ask you to consider the case I specifically mentioned and answer my questions.
The thing is that we are able to live the lives we live because of the laws and the justice system that are there to protect us. I very well realize that the justice system, especially in the States, is flawed to an extent, but if you stop believing in that then there's nothing left to stop you from doing whatever you decide would be right, as misguided as it may be at that point.

I think that in the long run, it would be far more satisfying to see a criminal convicted by a court of justice than to beat him to death in a fit of rage. Why? Because if a court of justice declares that he is guilty of the crimes he was charged of, then that judgment was made through the laws and values of our entire society as a whole rather than what just you, at that moment where rage blinded you, felt like. It would be a reconfirmation of that we still hold those values in high regard. And I'd be far happier living in a world where the laws and values of society condemn such an action in a well thought out and considered manner than on an eye-for-an-eye, shoot-first-ask-questions-later basis.

Also, if justice in your eyes is that you have the right to kill a man on the spot without giving him a fair trial, then your sense of justice is completely warped and totally out of sync with how our society works. That means you actually are a danger to society and are arguably just as bad as a rapist.
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Eraser wrote:Bit slow on the uptake are you?
At least I've still got a hint of humour and self-mockery left in me.
"still"? That would imply that you had any to begin with.
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Memphis wrote:
Nightshade wrote: Besides, being dumb enough to have kids
Good job you have dumb parents...
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I blame Goof for 68% of the increase
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Not really related, but it helps indicate the insanity that is Texas:

Texas Man Found Guilty for Killing Neighbor in Dispute
A jury has convicted a Texas man for murdering his neighbor during a confrontation over loud music two years ago, rejecting a claim that he was within his rights to fatally shoot the man under Texas' version of a "stand-your-ground" law....

...It took the jury less than six hours Wednesday to decide between self-defense and murder. Jurors, apparently agreeing with prosecutors that Rodriguez, a retired Houston-area firefighter, was a trigger-happy neighborhood bully.

"He felt like he had ultimate control, control to determine who lives and who dies," Donna Logan, Harris County Assistant District Attorney, said...

...It was after midnight when Rodriguez, complaining to police via telephone that the music was too loud, walked up to Danaher's driveway with a flashlight and gun.

In the video, Rodriguez can be heard talking to a 911 operator, saying, "I'm running the video camera right now and I'm talking to you and I mean, I'm scared to death here."..."It's about to get out of hand sir, please help me. Please help me, my life is in danger now ...," Rodriguez told police over the phone. "Now, I'm standing my ground here. Now, these people are going to try and kill me."...
Yep...he was "standing his ground" when, like that idiot Zimmerman who shot Treyvon Martin, he initiated the altercation and actually walked up to the "threat". Just in case someone needs a diagram to understand the problem here: advancing towards someone isn't standing your ground, it makes you the aggressor.

I honestly believe that the "stand your ground" law simply makes it easier - and legal - for psychos, bullies and assholes to terrorize their neighbors.

So when is Texas gonna get nuked?
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Why are you making this about Texas and not the initial article?
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I like how GKY's solution to senseless violence is blowing up 25 million people with a nuclear bomb :olo: :up:
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I think most of the people really against this probably don't have kids. If you don't, you can't possibly relate to the concept of something happening to them and the levels you're willing to go to to protect them. It's not comparable to any other protective instinct you'll ever experience. People calling this guy crazy is probably accurate, but that is what this level of love does. It makes you crazy, where you'd take a life or give your own in order to ensure the safety of your child. It's quite a stressful level of love to have for something.

People who have kids and still aren't able to relate to this guy are likely intrinsically weak individuals who would kill or die for their children, were they able to rid themselves of the selfishness that gives them enough pause to stop and think.

Basically, there's places in the world where you can get away with things, and places where you can't. Obviously, at this guys address, you can't get away with trying to rape his kids. Maybe at Shaft's place your odds of walking away with just a stern telling off are much higher.
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Memphis wrote: Who the fuck cares what you mentioned, when we're discussing this specific story. Noone's defending kiddy fiddlers. I think we can all agree that any remotely civilized motherfucker alive would still instantly behead anyone caught with their cock in a kid, even if it isn't their kid.
What's genuinely stupid is so many here blindly baying for blood, simply at the mention of an allegation, when the guy making it absolutely, without doubt killed some bastard. You think he won't say whatever the fuck to excuse it? Should slinging the term peado give carte blanche for public execution, like it's the new terrurist? Fuck no.

Besides, being dumb enough to have kids doesn't grant free pass to daddy-emo brain function backfiring instead of rational thinking.
'Oh, if you had kids...' and all that shit. Go throw on a skirt.
Well apparently you care what I mentioned, since you called me a knee-jerk moron (oh, the irony) as if I had specifically responded to the article, which I didn't. I made a comment directed at Eraser.

By the way, when did you turn into a complete idiot?
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Eraser wrote: The thing is that we are able to live the lives we live because of the laws and the justice system that are there to protect us. I very well realize that the justice system, especially in the States, is flawed to an extent, but if you stop believing in that then there's nothing left to stop you from doing whatever you decide would be right, as misguided as it may be at that point.

I think that in the long run, it would be far more satisfying to see a criminal convicted by a court of justice than to beat him to death in a fit of rage. Why? Because if a court of justice declares that he is guilty of the crimes he was charged of, then that judgment was made through the laws and values of our entire society as a whole rather than what just you, at that moment where rage blinded you, felt like. It would be a reconfirmation of that we still hold those values in high regard. And I'd be far happier living in a world where the laws and values of society condemn such an action in a well thought out and considered manner than on an eye-for-an-eye, shoot-first-ask-questions-later basis.

Also, if justice in your eyes is that you have the right to kill a man on the spot without giving him a fair trial, then your sense of justice is completely warped and totally out of sync with how our society works. That means you actually are a danger to society and are arguably just as bad as a rapist.
Sorry, but in no way shape or form is killing a rapist as bad as raping a child. If you think so, you're demented and devoid of a moral compass. Should killing be the first option? No, not in a perfect world, or at least a closer approximation than ours. In an ideal world, rapists and pedophiles wouldn't exist. Sadly, they do. Equally sad is the fact that trials of scumbags like that can easily end up with the perpetrator being acquitted due to some sleazy legal chicanery.

I can only speak from personal opinion here, and from that I say that if I caught someone trying to, or in the act of, raping my kid I'd beat them to within an inch of their life, then call the cops. Note that I would take every effort to drag them out of sight of my kid first. If the dirtbag happened to die, so fucking what? One less piece of shit on the planet. He was in the wrong, not me. He was committing the crime, not me. If someone wants to do shit like that, they need to be aware of the consequences, which may very well be fatal.

I have a very high regard for the concepts of justice and due process of law, except when it comes to rapists and child molesters. For them it's up against the wall, two in the chest, one in the head. Why? Because you can't fix those fucks and the taxpayers shouldn't have to support them for the rest of their worthless lives.

As far as the pooh-poohing of my statements about how you'd feel if you had children, well, eat shit. If you don't have kids, you cannot possibly understand. If you are not willing to kill or die to protect your children, then you aren't a man, you're a sperm donor. Don't agree and don't have kids? Fuck you, you aren't qualified to comment.
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GONNAFISTYA wrote: I completely agree with you regarding ped0s, bankers and hell...throw in anyone who aspires to be a reality tv star. I'd love to round them all up and slowly, painfully kill them all in one satisfying swoop as it would do humanity and the gene pool alot of good.

The problem is that isn't the way civilized societies are supposed to work.
Right, but since we don't live in one...
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