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Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:05 pm
by Mogul
I know. I have seen three people I know personally post such things, one of them being a journalist for my local newspaper. The level of misinformation is unreal.

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:12 pm
by EtUL
and the hubris of americans thinking other countries would just welcome them with open arms, especially the tosser's who have that mentality.

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:19 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
I've yet to meet an American at my work who wasn't thrilled about Canada's healthcare plan compared to what they were used to at home in the states.

In fact...the only complaints about Canada's universal healthcare that I've heard come from the Europeans who's individual country's universal healthcare systems are even better than Canada's. :olo:

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:29 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Mogul wrote:I know. I have seen three people I know personally post such things, one of them being a journalist for my local newspaper. The level of misinformation is unreal.
Send them this link. It's from the site "HowThingsWork" and is reality-based, not Truthiness-based. Haters gonna hate but you might reach someone...

10 Health Care Systems Around the World
In 2008, the Harvard School of Public Health and Harris Interactive conducted a survey that asked U.S. citizens whether their country had the best health care system in the world. Overall, 45 percent of the respondents believed that the U.S. did in fact have the best system, but when the results were broken down by political party affiliation, the differences were stark. Sixty-eight percent of Republicans claimed U.S. superiority, compared to only 32 percent of Democrats. More than half of Democrats -- 52 percent -- believed that other countries had better health care systems, a belief shared by only 19 percent of Republicans (the remainder of participants claimed not to know). Participants from both parties admitted that the U.S. was particularly weak in factors like making sure everyone had affordable health care and controlling health care costs [source: Harvard School of Public Health].

In the contentious debate about health care reform, the U.S. system is often compared to other systems around the world. Some are concerned that the U.S. spends twice as much per person, while others are willing to pay that price to have choice of providers and shorter waiting times. Myths abound about what health care is actually like in other countries, so let's go around the world and see for ourselves.

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:43 am
by MKJ
china? really?

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:47 am
by seremtan
i don't think the article is a '10 healthcare systems that are better than america' type of deal - more '10 healthcare systems that are different from america'

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:41 am
by bitWISE
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-0 ... -home.html

I rest my case lol

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:36 pm
by seremtan
now if all those morons in washington had created a decent stimulus package that could have plugged the holes in state finances, this wouldn't have happened, and it would have boosted the economy as well [/keynes]
Six of the nine candidates in last year’s nonpartisan mayoral election, including the victor, Mayor Steve Bach, signed the no-tax pledge pushed by Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, according to the Colorado Springs Gazette.

Richard Skorman, one candidate who didn’t, was flooded with angry e-mails after saying in a debate why he opposed such a pledge. What, he asked, if the city got hit by a major wildfire?
lulz

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:03 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
seremtan wrote:now if all those morons in washington had created a decent stimulus package that could have plugged the holes in state finances, this wouldn't have happened, and it would have boosted the economy as well [/keynes]
Six of the nine candidates in last year’s nonpartisan mayoral election, including the victor, Mayor Steve Bach, signed the no-tax pledge pushed by Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, according to the Colorado Springs Gazette.

Richard Skorman, one candidate who didn’t, was flooded with angry e-mails after saying in a debate why he opposed such a pledge. What, he asked, if the city got hit by a major wildfire?
lulz
I feel so sorry for Krugman...a voice of sanity in a sea of stupidity. It seems in today's world if you're an economist who's even considering thinking about how fucked things are, not even yet actually discussing it, that you're already a pariah and shit the money bed. Sociopathic children to the very core and they'll NEVER have an adult conversation about it. That old saying about how a man won't understand something if his job depends on him not understanding it....something something something.

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
pffffftttt

I'll grant you that any country's medical system must be great if it can sustain a person to reach seremtan's age but surely Canada wins with it's 1000 year old maggot remedies.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article ... amputation

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:56 am
by Don Carlos
Maggots and Leeches get used in the UK as well.

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:11 am
by MKJ
and Texas.