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Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:27 pm
by DTS
A quick glance tells me £1320 for 4 of those GTX670s.
That's more than many a PC costs, just for the graphics. I thought, what I saw before, £1000 for a sort of double-graphics-card-in-one-thing was a lot... I suppose it still is, though.

Edit: Now I know what all that power is getting used for: Multi-monitor set-ups.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:31 pm
by ToxicBug
DTS wrote:A quick glance tells me £1320 for 4 of those GTX670s.
That's more than many a PC costs, just for the graphics. I thought, what I saw before, £1000 for a sort of double-graphics-card-in-one-thing was a lot... I suppose it still is, though.

Edit: Now I know what all that power is getting used for: Multi-monitor set-ups.
They're EVGA GTX 670 4GB SC, I paid $2100 CAD after tax. I wouldn't get them if I didn't need them, though. I'm hoping to be able to run most games at 60+ fps at 7680x1440 (8064x1440 bezel corrected).

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:55 pm
by DTS
4 Gb? That's £1520, then. Seems expensive... but that (7680x1440) is a nice high resolution. Aren't those higher resolution monitors some of the most expensive, too? *whistle*

Idk if I'll ever run a 3-monitor set-up. I played a Ferrari arcade driving sim before that used 3 monitors, that was good, but I'm more interested in a 21:9 screen, hope they make a monitor like that; they've only made TVs that wouldn't take PC input at that ratio and some phones that also wouldn't display anything at the native res except the phone's interface.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:04 pm
by ToxicBug
DTS wrote:4 Gb? That's £1520, then. Seems expensive... but that (7680x1440) is a nice high resolution. Aren't those higher resolution monitors some of the most expensive, too? *whistle*

Idk if I'll ever run a 3-monitor set-up. I played a Ferrari arcade driving sim before that used 3 monitors, that was good, but I'm more interested in a 21:9 screen, hope they make a monitor like that; they've only made TVs that wouldn't take PC input at that ratio and some phones that also wouldn't display anything at the native res except the phone's interface.
The screens cost me $2,500 CAD. I played some Dirt 3 on three screens and then played it on one screen. You really can't compare, it's two different worlds.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:23 pm
by SoM

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:32 pm
by Tsakali

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:31 am
by DRuM
Nightshade wrote:
OK, I copy all that except for the 3770K. Dafuq izzat?

The latest and greatest Intel cpu series. It's called Ivybridge which supercedes their still very popular Sandybridge line.

SandyBridge - i5 2500K, i7 2600K, i7 2700K
Ivybridge - i5 3570K, i7 3770k

By all accounts, Ivybridge runs hotter than Sandybridge, but improves on it with a few better features. Such as a more powerful onboard graphics chip built into the cpu.
Apparently the Ivybridge onboard graphics processor alone can run crysis on fairly high.

You'll be fine with either Sandybridge or Ivybridge, just get whichever is cheaper. Make sure it has 'K' at the end of the number, they're the overclockable ones.
You won't need an i7 if it's mostly for gaming. You'll be fine with either i5 2500k or i5 3570K.

If you have any more questions, shoot me a mail at DRuMknowseverythingthereistoknowaboutcomputersmoreorlessbutnotasmuchaseveryoneelsehere @ cunt3world.com

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:56 am
by GONNAFISTYA
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Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:32 am
by DRuM
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I just signed your email up for gay porn. :up:
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Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:17 am
by ToxicBug
DRuM wrote:
Nightshade wrote:
OK, I copy all that except for the 3770K. Dafuq izzat?
By all accounts, Ivybridge runs hotter than Sandybridge
IB only runs hotter because Intel put a TIM between the die and the IHS instead of fluxless solder like they did on SB. I replaced it on mine with Noctua NT-H1. At first my temps dropped by 10C, but the NT-H1 couldn't handle being between the die and the IHS and the next day my temps soared 10C higher than stock. I put some Arctic Silver 5 for now, hoping that it will be more stable. I'm going to try some Arctic MX-4 when I receive it, and then move on to Liquid Ultra if that doesn't work out. I just don't want to deal with all the difficulties of liquid metal just yet.

BTW, I made a step-by-step and took some pics of the process. You can read it here .

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:14 pm
by scared?
just built a pc for one of my retarded kids and the damn thing is getting random reboots...worst possible problem...fuck u god!...

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:41 pm
by LawL
Why don't you make an iphone their PC like you've done for yourself?

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:50 pm
by Captain
scared? wrote:just built a pc for one of my retarded kids and the damn thing is getting random reboots...worst possible problem...fuck u god!...
This is why you dumb people need Macs.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:11 pm
by seremtan
scared? wrote:just built a pc for one of my retarded kids and the damn thing is getting random reboots...worst possible problem...fuck u god!...
perhaps if your wife's ovaries had gotten random reboots you wouldn't have so many retarded kids in the first place, geoffagrey :miffed:

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:16 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
scared? wrote:...one of my retarded kids...
lol how many are retarded?

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:08 pm
by scared?
Lol here's the deal...I fixed it by disabling cool and quiet in bios... Another spot on PC built by your god GEOFF...u mad?...

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:23 pm
by Tsakali
can you repeat that? I couldn't hear your over the sound of your god awful cpu fan.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:22 am
by Therac-25
By all accounts, Ivybridge runs hotter than Sandybridge
This is rumoured to be because of substandard thermal paste between the die and the integrated heat spreader on early Ivy Bridge parts.

Some places have gotten positive results from removing that and redoing the paste under there with something worthwhile.

Haven't done that myself yet (obviously disclaimers against stupid people trying it if they care about warranties and pussy stuff like that), but I've not yet gotten around to pushing the speeds up yet.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:48 am
by obsidian
Intel releases their processors on what they call a "tick-tock" release schedule - "tick" for a significant architecture change, followed by a "tock" of a die-shrink. Ivybridge represents a "tick" release so it's expected to see a little higher heat issues until the following die-shrink. Really though, probably not much of an issue if you run a few degrees hotter. Just get a decent HSF and do some dusting every now and then.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:11 am
by SoM

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:16 pm
by ToxicBug
obsidian wrote:Intel releases their processors on what they call a "tick-tock" release schedule - "tick" for a significant architecture change, followed by a "tock" of a die-shrink. Ivybridge represents a "tick" release so it's expected to see a little higher heat issues until the following die-shrink. Really though, probably not much of an issue if you run a few degrees hotter. Just get a decent HSF and do some dusting every now and then.
It's the other way around. Tick is a die shrink and Ivy Bridge is a tick.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:17 pm
by ToxicBug
Therac-25 wrote:
By all accounts, Ivybridge runs hotter than Sandybridge
This is rumoured to be because of substandard thermal paste between the die and the integrated heat spreader on early Ivy Bridge parts.

Some places have gotten positive results from removing that and redoing the paste under there with something worthwhile.

Haven't done that myself yet (obviously disclaimers against stupid people trying it if they care about warranties and pussy stuff like that), but I've not yet gotten around to pushing the speeds up yet.
Beat you to it a few posts up :p

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:28 am
by AmIdYfReAk
DRuM wrote: The latest and greatest Intel cpu series.
2011 > 1155... Cmon now, 3960X is the top dog, Not 3770K.

I've got to get clocking my 3930K and see whats up. :)

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:51 am
by andyman
scared? wrote:just built a pc for one of my retarded kids and the damn thing is getting random reboots...worst possible problem...fuck u god!...

mine does the same. sometimes it will be fine for days, sometimes it restarts 3 times in 3 hours.

Re: Calling all PC hardware wonks

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:58 am
by AmIdYfReAk
Memtest+

Have at it.