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It's all a bit of a dirty game. Read this to get some more insight into the way these women are dealing with it and how the pieces (probably) fit together.Plan B wrote:And I'd like to read the Swedish women's statements about those alleged rapes.
So easy to condemn a guy because the word rape was thrown out there, because where there's smoke there's fire etc.
yes, at least some hotheads in the US do, but it's far from simple. how are they going to justify indicting assange but not also indicting the editors of the NYT, Guardian and Der Spiegel? kind of a legal minefield, don't you think?Eraser wrote:Like Nightshade said, it's obvious the US wants to nail Assange for the whole Wikileaks case.
right, NO DOUBT, although all you have to support that claim is a some tinfoil-wrapped speculation. give me the name of your british govt mole and i might buy into it. frankly, i think it's more plausible that william hague (foreign secretary currently in charge now cameron's on vacation) simply handled the situation badly (wouldn't be the first time). you seem to think the british govt is full of cunning schemers when in truth it's full of incompetent morons. most likely outcome is they'll just wait him out. sitting in a tiny room all day for months or even years on end (the ecuadorian embassy is small) will get old eventuallyThere is also no doubt that England making such threats to Ecuador isn't about a man on the roll for a doubtful rape charge.
which of course ecuador knew very well they would when they made the offer. they were grandstanding, as so many people have been over this issue (including hague & co)Thirdly, Ecuador invited Swedish officials to interrogate Assange in the Ecuadorian embassy yet Sweden has refused.
how can they possibly guarantee that when to do so would mean preemptively rejecting an extradition request they haven't even received yet?Fourth: Ecuador asked Sweden if they could guarantee that Assange wouldn't be extradited to the US, which Sweden has said no to.
then why not just issue formal charges already and request extradition from the UK (especially in light of the heinous lopsided extradition treaty that exists between the UK and US)? also, if he is actually formally charged over the rape allegations in sweden, and found guilty, he won't be going to america - he'll be in a swedish prison making friends with Olaf the weightlifter in the shower blockThe actions and behavior of both Sweden and the UK reek of this being about more than just a rape case, most likely it's about Wikileaks, which brings us back to the US wanting him for that.
And no, the US hasn't officially put charges out yet, but I'm sure they'll do once hé steps foot on Swedish soil.
If they file formal charges, it would become clear if he is up for the death penalty. The UK could deny extradition if he is, and the US wouldn't be left with many options. By delaying charging him with a crime, or getting him to Sweden who we (apparently) have in our pocket, there's a better chance of getting him out of the UK, into a more vulnerable position.seremtan wrote:then why not just issue formal charges already and request extradition from the UK (especially in light of the heinous lopsided extradition treaty that exists between the UK and US)? also, if he is actually formally charged over the rape allegations in sweden, and found guilty, he won't be going to america - he'll be in a swedish prison making friends with Olaf the weightlifter in the shower block
Maybe that's why they want to extradite him to Sweden, so Sweden can do the extraditing-to-a-death-sentance-country instead?GONNAFISTYA wrote:Isn't it against the UK's own laws to extradite someone to a country where they know the person will be put to death? Or are they conveniently forgetting that "in a post nine eleven world"? © 2001
Nuclear antics? So more than one post in any topic means the poster is raging now? Uh, ok, whatever blows your hair back.seremtan wrote:lol at you telling me to calm down, captain rageboy. lately you make randy look like little orphan annie with your nuclear antics
unfortunately i couldn't get through to my mole deep in the heart of the british government, so i have no idea what they're thinking. given that britain is run by faggots, they probably just want the whole issue to go away
happy now, chucklefuck?
If a judge ever allowed that reasoning he'd be off the bench in six minutes.DTS wrote:Maybe that's why they want to extradite him to Sweden, so Sweden can do the extraditing-to-a-death-sentance-country instead?GONNAFISTYA wrote:Isn't it against the UK's own laws to extradite someone to a country where they know the person will be put to death? Or are they conveniently forgetting that "in a post nine eleven world"? © 2001
it is, and the US govt knows this, so would be unlikely to put it to the test unless there was some tactical purpose in seeing the extradition request failGONNAFISTYA wrote:Isn't it against the UK's own laws to extradite someone to a country where they know the person will be put to death?