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Gramps>lawl ...

Looks like Geoff is having a meltdown.

YourGrandpa wrote: I'm also a realist who understands where the majority of Americans stand on their right to bare arms.

It's 'bear' you illiterate fucktard.

LawL wrote:Looks like Geoff is having a meltdown.

GRAMPS WINS ...

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So angry he links thread from a fag forum that he can edit ppl's comments...Oh he mad

GONNAFISTYA wrote:This thread is gramps' attempt to show that gun owners can be reasonable. He failed miserably.

Do you think I'm pretending? Maybe I'm reasonable and you're the furthest thing from it? Ever consider that?

LawL wrote:Actually your reaction to me simply saying the education and licensing angle would not work undoubtedly proves that you are the one incapable of any form of thought or conversation. Not to mention the fact that said reaction is simply because I disagree with you. And to think that someone as incredibly immature as yourself is legally able to own guns, no wonder mass murders are an accepted way of life in your country.

My reaction to your incredibly empty and biased opinion was completely warranted. Especially since I suggested coupling psychological and instructional testing with education in order to obtain a license. Which you conveniently overlooked or disregarded is your predictable rush to disagree with anything I say. Talk about immature. Fuck off to your next tan session, fag.

You're done here as far as I'm concerned.

Is Gramps the biggest attention whore of this forum?

YourGrandpa wrote:Maybe I'm reasonable and you're the furthest thing from it? Ever consider that?

I'm being very reasonable. In fact, I think I've already proved beyond doubt what this discussion is like when I'm unreasonable and I'd guess that everyone on this forum would agree that the differences are quite obvious. Unless, of course, you've already forgotten the thousands of previous threads on this very topic, which seems to be the case.

It doesn't matter what I or anyone else says to you or any of the thousands of mentally ill gun-nuts, because you don't want to change and will not relent in any way that limits your access to guns. That's been established quite firmly by this point. You'll pretend to listen, but we both know it's window-dressing.

Do you think I'm pretending?

Well?

No.

But I do think you're being disingenuous when you say paranoid, irrational people will be reasonable. Decade after decade of proof of this can be found quite easily.

Do you think I'm being unreasonable for pointing out that gun-nuts have been historically unreasonable? Because the answer seems to be "yes".

YourGrandpa wrote:My reaction to your incredibly empty and biased opinion was completely warranted. Especially since I suggested coupling psychological and instructional testing with education in order to obtain a license. Which you conveniently overlooked or disregarded is your predictable rush to disagree with anything I say. Talk about immature. Fuck off to your next tan session, fag.

You're done here as far as I'm concerned.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I think anyone who clearly deserves the title of "nut" would be unreasonable. But I think your classification of "gun nut" is skewed. You classify everyone who supports the private ownership and possession firearms as a gun nut. Which by your definition would also be unreasonable. Your steadfast position on guns and blanket classifications would make you equally unreasonable to the opposition. I see your point and don't completely agree. I also believe that America needs to do something about these mass killings. Though I don't think starting with the gun is the right place. Banning things is never the best approach. Imagine how well banning cigarettes would go. But education is slowly but surely pushing people away from them. People who are more informed make better decisions.

seremtan wrote:What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

You must be extremely board.

BTW, I wasn't talking to you.

YourGrandpa wrote:You must be extremely board.

Do you mean "bored"?

lol double owned.

YourGrandpa wrote:I think anyone who clearly deserves the title of "nut" would be unreasonable. But I think your classification of "gun nut" is skewed. You classify everyone who supports the private ownership and possession firearms as a gun nut. Which by your definition would also be unreasonable. Your steadfast position on guns and blanket classifications would make you equally unreasonable to the opposition. I see your point and don't completely agree. I also believe that America needs to do something about these mass killings. Though I don't think starting with the gun is the right place. Banning things is never the best approach. Imagine how well banning cigarettes would go. But education is slowly but surely pushing people away from them. People who are more informed make better decisions.

I think I've seen GFY say that gun ownership isn't really a problem but owning guns in self defence is rather nutty in some of these threads dedicated to you, amongst a bunch of other reasons. I could be wrong and getting him mixed up with someone else on here though but if you take part in hunting/culling or sporting activities that involve a gun, they're not so nutty imo.

btw, fags have had blanket legislation to the point where it's almost impossible to maintain a healthy addiction , I can't smoke indoors but in yankland I could carry a tec9 ?, people are not necessarily giving up due to education and alcohol is the new public enemy.

Not the best of examples really

YourGrandpa wrote:You classify everyone who supports the private ownership and possession firearms as a gun nut. Which by your definition would also be unreasonable. Your steadfast position on guns and blanket classifications would make you equally unreasonable to the opposition.

You are 100% incorrect, as losCHUNK has correctly pointed out why. Seriously man...you're conversing with someone who's probably shot more guns than you.

I consider anyone who thinks they NEED a gun for protection from their government or their neighbors to be a gun-nut, not those that target shoot or go hunting. I've said this to you roughly 20 times in the last year alone.
Chunk remembers me saying it, as does probably alot of people on this forum...so why can't you?

did anyone see the piers moron vs alex jones exchange? even though jones is a tinfoil loon (and sounded every bit of it during the exchange) i'd still back him against that slimy fucktard morgan just on general principle

Here's a "reasonable" person threatening to kill people if Obama does anything to take away his guns.



LOL!!! The cunt edited his own video because it was probably "too extreme". You can watch the entire video where he happily says he'll shoot his fellow American here.

See...he's mad that Obama might ignore Congress (which has made it clear they aren't willing to work with him in any way, shape or form) and enact stricter gun-control laws to take away assault rifles and high-capacity ammo magazines. Never mind handguns...this cunt has made it clear that even dealing with ASSAULT RIFLES is off the table. These idiots have had the NRA block any progress in gun-control, so people who are fed up with these UNREASONABLE people want to do away with the whole one-sided argument altogether and force these idiots to do something productive.

As I've said before in (yet) another gun thread: Gun-nuts are simply sociopathic assholes who don't like being told what to do and they want us all to live in their crazy world. They're unremittingly paranoid, irrational and violent to the point of being proud of it. No wonder they've controlled the conversation for the last 140 fucking years: people are scared of being shot by gun-nuts who will become exceedingly violent when they don't get what they want...and this idiot proves they're right to be scared.

This is why I call them gun NUTS: because they are all to happy to shoot & kill people and then justify it to themselves with no remorse. If that isn't nuts, then I don't know what is.

seremtan wrote:did anyone see the piers moron vs alex jones exchange? even though jones is a tinfoil loon (and sounded every bit of it during the exchange) i'd still back him against that slimy fucktard morgan just on general principle

Yes I saw it and while I think Piers Morgan is a true cunt that shouldn't be on television he did a fantastic job of letting Alex Jones make an utter fool of himself.

But the nuts will see it as vindication...especially when Alex Jones was frothing about a new civil war....because these idiots have always wanted an excuse to shoot their fellow citizens.

It's not about the common good. It's about what they want. Always has been.

diego wrote:

YourGrandpa wrote:You must be extremely board.

Do you mean "bored"?

Dammit deigo, that's for the bored people.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Here's a "reasonable" person threatening to kill people if Obama does anything to take away his guns.

See...he's mad that Obama might ignore Congress (which has made it clear they aren't willing to work with him in any way, shape or form) and enact stricter gun-control laws to take away assault rifles and high-capacity ammo magazines. Never mind handguns...this cunt has made it clear that even dealing with ASSAULT RIFLES is off the table. These idiots have had the NRA block any progress in gun-control, so people who are fed up with these UNREASONABLE people want to do away with the whole one-sided argument altogether and force these idiots to do something productive.

As I've said before in (yet) another gun thread: Gun-nuts are simply sociopathic assholes who don't like being told what to do and they want us all to live in their crazy world. They're unremittingly paranoid, irrational and violent to the point of being proud of it. No wonder they've controlled the conversation for the last 140 fucking years: people are scared of being shot by gun-nuts who will become exceedingly violent when they don't get what they want...and this idiot proves they're right to be scared.

This is why I call them gun NUTS: because they are all to happy to shoot & kill people and then justify it to themselves with no remorse. If that isn't nuts, then I don't know what is.

He is a nut.. However, I don't agree with our President and how he has said that he would proceed.

1. I don't think banning assault rifles is a fix. There are a great deal of statistics that have shown that simply banning them didn't work.
2. Banning high cap magazines (mags over 10 rnds) is not a fix. Even an unskilled shooter can change a mag in under a second.
3. The place to start is the people.

About your perception of gun nuts... I should have said anyone who owns a firearm for only private ownership or possession. Meaning they don't hunt or shoot for sport. Do you think everyone who has a CCW is a nut? Do you think everyone with a loaded firearm in their home is a nut?

Then do you arm teachers, principals, or security in schools?

Wait, start with schools, then theatres, move on to every corner, next require all businesses to have trained armed security.