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Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:58 pm
by andyman
Ryoki wrote:What i want to know is how they managed to detonate the two bombs near simultaniously. Think about it, it's kinda weird; they built these really crude, do it yourself explosive devices and they found a way to 'splode em at the same time... how'd they manage that? Were the bombs on a timer? Seems akward when you have the pack on your back and you have the intention to get away, so my guess would be no. But then it must be on some kind of remote trigger, like a cellphone or a garage door opener or something like that. Which sounds rather more complicated to put together.
How did they know how to rig something like that up but totally fail at building a better device? As a small town in Texas recently demonstrated, there's better stuff to build bombs from. And that knowledge is certainly out there for any net surfing wannabe terrorist googling for instructions on how to make a detonator...
/tin foil hat
IT'S A MIRACLE OF GOD OBVIOUSLY..
first you question how it is even possible, then you suggest that you can do a better job because of another, unrelated incident that happened 1500mi away? tardface.gif ffs
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:10 pm
by scared?
http://youtu.be/-nIEfEN1jVA
This is obviously the older brother...so they caught him and then killed him...obvious false flag...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:11 pm
by xer0s
Geoff, isn't the conspiracy over when the suspects start firing on police and throwing explosives? I mean, wouldn't someone that is innocent throw up their hands and say "We're innocent, don't shoot!"
Just sayin...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:19 pm
by scared?
Did u see them firing at police? Cuz I haven't seen that anywhere...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:30 pm
by xer0s
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:35 pm
by scared?
Oh...u were just told that by the media and authorities and u just believed them...I see...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:50 pm
by Eraser
ryoki, you assume the explosions being (near) simultaneously was intended. Maybe it was just how it happened and they never intended any synchronization.
I don't try to speculate on the bombings, but your argument sounds too much like the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:57 pm
by Ryoki
andyman wrote:
IT'S A MIRACLE OF GOD OBVIOUSLY..
first you question how it is even possible, then you suggest that you can do a better job because of another, unrelated incident that happened 1500mi away? tardface.gif ffs
Haha
Hey hey, not questioning how it was possible at all, i'm of the opinion that if you decide to educate yourself on the topic of making bombs it'd probably be entirely possible to get working knowledge through the medium of interwebs and books. What i'm wondering about has to do with the explosion... hey, you might be able to shed some more light on it actually, what with your military experience and so on.
Here's the thing i'm not getting; the bombs seemed relatively weak. There was a big orange ball of fire, which correct me if i'm wrong, is a sign of the explosive force being inefficient, like gunpowder. There's no crater or much impact to the site where it went off, nor are there heaps of torn off limbs and dozens of casualties. It was supposed to kill by shrapnel, sure, but i get the feeling it could have been a lot more had they used different stuff. Would you agree?
Now, as i see it, they could have made something like fertilizer/diesel/bits of aluminum foil-based stuff, the procurement and creation of which (goes my reasoning) is probably a hell of a lot easier than finding a way to remotely set off two explosions at once. And that's what's i'm finding interesting, what happened there? Besides being complete fuckheads, did they not do their jihomework, or like only half of it? Why this incompetence? This shit was cool 5 years ago, haven't they noticed noone's really doing it anymore? Kids go to Syria or Mali these days.
Please note it's entirely possible i might have jumped to hasty & unwarrented assumptions concerning some of the technical details, speaking completely out of my arse as it were...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:06 pm
by Ryoki
Eraser wrote:ryoki, you assume the explosions being (near) simultaneously was intended. Maybe it was just how it happened and they never intended any synchronization.
No way, of course that was intended to happen. Could have just been timers though, i imagine that would be easier to create. But then jesus christ, i'd be fucking nervous if i had a timed device on me and i intended to live... unless of course they only wanted to live to do more evil things. But what was their plan anyway? They had four days to either fuck more shit up or run away, and they did nothing!
I'm starting to think these guys were utter idiots...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:56 pm
by losCHUNK
Ryoki wrote:andyman wrote:
IT'S A MIRACLE OF GOD OBVIOUSLY..
first you question how it is even possible, then you suggest that you can do a better job because of another, unrelated incident that happened 1500mi away? tardface.gif ffs
Haha
Hey hey, not questioning how it was possible at all, i'm of the opinion that if you decide to educate yourself on the topic of making bombs it'd probably be entirely possible to get working knowledge through the medium of interwebs and books. What i'm wondering about has to do with the explosion... hey, you might be able to shed some more light on it actually, what with your military experience and so on.
Here's the thing i'm not getting; the bombs seemed relatively weak. There was a big orange ball of fire, which correct me if i'm wrong, is a sign of the explosive force being inefficient, like gunpowder. There's no crater or much impact to the site where it went off, nor are there heaps of torn off limbs and dozens of casualties. It was supposed to kill by shrapnel, sure, but i get the feeling it could have been a lot more had they used different stuff. Would you agree?
Now, as i see it, they could have made something like fertilizer/diesel/bits of aluminum foil-based stuff, the procurement and creation of which (goes my reasoning) is probably a hell of a lot easier than finding a way to remotely set off two explosions at once. And that's what's i'm finding interesting, what happened there? Besides being complete fuckheads, did they not do their jihomework, or like only half of it? Why this incompetence? This shit was cool 5 years ago, haven't they noticed noone's really doing it anymore? Kids go to Syria or Mali these days.
Please note it's entirely possible i might have jumped to hasty & unwarrented assumptions concerning some of the technical details, speaking completely out of my arse as it were...
I can kinda put that down to inexperience. The last London attacks with the failed bombs could have been made better like and you'd think carrying out such a risky operation would have been planned to eliminate fuck ups. But their bags just poofed a lot of smoke. These ones I think -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_July_20 ... n_bombings.
I thought they actually did pretty well in getting the little arsenal they had together. They had another one of those big bombs when the police were chasing them down plus they had numerous 'pipe bombs', along with the guns n ammo and whatever else the cops managed to find.
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/edit 2 - Sweet, somehow this post has become linked to my bottom post on the previous page. I can edit / delete and both will be altered. Fear my magic...
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:35 pm
by scared?
STORY OF THE CENTURY BREAKING!!!...
http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2013 ... 45912.html
Re: Glenn beck has a major story which will change the world for
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:42 pm
by andyman
before it's news, it's made up
