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Scourge wrote:
I'm saying in comparison to legal guns. They're all going up, that's no secret.

Well no shit you're saying in comparison to legal guns, I figured that much. And yes, again, no shit everything's going up - it's called inflation.

The point is that you're wrong about the price of weaponry not increasing in the event of widespread gun control. Do you think alcohol stayed the same price during prohibition?

It's literally economics 101. When a precious resource is restricted, the black market value explodes.

Christ, seriously, just stop going apeshit and get a grip of yourself, Randeen. You're acting like a maniac.

Scourge wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/us/even-defining-assault-weapons-is-complicated.html

Also, by the popular definition of 'assault weapon' being automatic they wouldn't legally be in most homes anyway. And the semi-auto variety are no different than any semi-auto sport/hunting rifles other than looks. In that case, I guess the semi-auto .22 I had as a kid was an assault rifle.

Assault Rifles are "a thing", despite what you previously stated. You need to take a breath before we have a forum Sandy Hook on our hands.

Randy Hook.

Ahh, thread delivers.

syp0s wrote:Randy Hook.

lol

syp0s wrote:

Scourge wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/us/even-defining-assault-weapons-is-complicated.html

Also, by the popular definition of 'assault weapon' being automatic they wouldn't legally be in most homes anyway. And the semi-auto variety are no different than any semi-auto sport/hunting rifles other than looks. In that case, I guess the semi-auto .22 I had as a kid was an assault rifle.

Assault Rifles are "a thing", despite what you previously stated. You need to take a breath before we have a forum Sandy Hook on our hands.

He's also missing the point - there is no such thing as a protection rifle, even if it's just a 'name' (which it isn't) there's no terminology for a protection weapon.

syp0s wrote:Randy Hook.

BOOM :Headshot:

With a machete even.

Scourge wrote:With a machete even.

Get a hold of yourself.

LawL wrote:

Scourge wrote:With a machete even.

Get a hold of yourself.

Did that earlier.

Oh you.

Grabbing his 9mm

ZING!

losCHUNK wrote:
He's also missing the point - there is no such thing as a protection rifle, even if it's just a 'name' (which it isn't) there's no terminology for a protection weapon.

That's the thing. If it spews out 30 bullets per second, it doesn't matter what it's called. It goes well past home security anyway.

also, look at homes designed for security: they usually have high thick walls made of stone/concrete, or moats, or barbed wire, bunkers, embrasures, firesteps etc. now look at the average suburban home: large areas of the outer wall made of glass, thin inner walls that allow rounds that miss the target to pass through and hit other people, no moats/firesteps/embrasures etc. in short, a fucking awful defensive position little better than standing in the middle of the lawn with your pants on your head and your dick in your hand

Basically this guy is correct and completely owned all of the morons who collect assault rifles just to shoot at paper.

seremtan wrote: little better than standing in the middle of the lawn with your pants on your head and your dick in your hand

Or, as Scourge calls it: "Friday".

Actually, Saturday.

I've been thinking about this gun issue recently, and I have a theory.

I think at the heart of every "proud American" (key phrase here) is a deep-seeded feeling that culturally, Americans are extremely shallow, but further, their entire history is actually not their history, but just a continuing chapter of British maritime/colonial history.

I think their obsession with "protection" is actually just an extension of that fact, rather than an actual fear of a threat.

Anyone hold with this, or am I completely off here?

Spot on.

well well well, the 2 brit cunts agree

Slarveback secretly agrees.

my English half agrees

syp0s wrote:I think at the heart of every "proud American" (key phrase here) is a deep-seeded feeling that culturally, Americans are extremely shallow, but further, their entire history is actually not their history, but just a continuing chapter of British maritime/colonial history.

I think their obsession with "protection" is actually just an extension of that fact, rather than an actual fear of a threat.

i think 'gun culture' (for want of a better phrase) originates in frontier times, when America was spread out (it still is) and there were a lot of isolated communities far from anything like law enforcement, and during the 20th century gun ownership has mutated from a matter of utility into a cultural marker, a facet of American identity. it isn't supposed to be rational; this is why so many arguments for gun ownership sound like unconvincing post-hoc reasoning

Americans don't think, or give a shit about their history or culture. A lot of peeps just believe guns are a right, and it's extremely ingrained, almost like a religion. It's going to take a few generations before any progress is made in terms of gun control.