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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:00 pm
by andyman
Keep It Real wrote:Hey Kracus, have you ever noticed having sex with girls feels differently when you're high? It makes the pussy feel a little different, i suppose. Such a bizarre phenomenon!! A texture thing or something. What do you think?
why would anyone ever do E or mushrooms or acid

You have to live a careless exisitance if you would do that kind of shit to yourself and rewire your brain with chemicals

Reality is real enough dude..
way to completely contradict yourself

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:01 pm
by Keep It Real
Kracus wrote:The question isn't why anyone else would do it it's whether you do or don't want to do it. If you don't good for you, if you do don't abuse it.
im asking you why you want to do it knowing it rewires your brain

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:02 pm
by Keep It Real
weed doesnt change reality and i was joking aout having sex high okay dude, alright, later

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:05 pm
by MKJ
Kracus wrote:Well since I own the place I really don't give a fuck, however since you feel the need to get a person fired over a message board, possibly completely ruin their life over a FUCKING MESSAGE BOARD I can honestly say I feel fucking sorry for you.
:icon19: kracus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:07 pm
by Keep It Real
riddla wrote:Keep It Real = walking oxymoron. Emphasis on moron.
have you ever uttered strange things like this to real people? how did they react.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:10 pm
by MKJ
:icon19:

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:11 pm
by Guest
Keep It Real wrote:
Kracus wrote:The question isn't why anyone else would do it it's whether you do or don't want to do it. If you don't good for you, if you do don't abuse it.
im asking you why you want to do it knowing it rewires your brain
Do some research first.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:18 pm
by Keep It Real
Kracus wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Kracus wrote:The question isn't why anyone else would do it it's whether you do or don't want to do it. If you don't good for you, if you do don't abuse it.
im asking you why you want to do it knowing it rewires your brain
Do some research first.
I'm a psychology major, and though i don't know how MDMA works exactly, I know that it floods the brain with seretonin which makes a strong emotional experience and also fucks your reality up, on high doses you can not act normal. During strong emotional experiences, the body releases hormones that increase memory. When this happens the connections in your brain change rapidly and your brain wiring changes. This stuff happens naturally, thats why MDMA affects us, but when we're fucked up it all happens fast and unnaturally. I just don't see the point.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:32 pm
by Guest
Well MDMA doesn't actualy flood the brain with Seretonin it tricks seretonin cells into working overdrive basicly depleting the cell. It's a lot more intense than working out which also causes the release of seretonin.

This drug was a prescription drug and concidered safe. In all my experiences with MDMA I've had nothing but predictable experiences, each has been the same so long as the source of the MDMA was reliable. It's not always and you can get pills with anything form Caffein to Heroin in them along with MDMA. MDMA also causes a speed like sensation that keeps you awake. Similar to taking a large dose of caffein pills or speed.

The seretonin cells regenerate and the ammount of MDMA required to cause any damage in a mouse was something rediculous like 500mg. A human sized pill is usualy anywhere in between 75MG and 100MG.

Studies done on monkeys showed no ill signs of prolongued use. These monkeys were divided into two groups. Once that had access to a limited number of pills and a group that had unlimited access. Both groups showed signs of effect on the brain while on E and months afterwards but both groups recovered. The recommended time for E's effect to completely leave a body seems to be about a month. However prolongued abuse can make it take longer.

The only deaths that have come from MDMA have either been from severe dehydration since people weren't drinking enough fluids or foolishly drinking alcohol and dancing up a storm. Or from bad pills mixed with other substances.

The effects of E is like a feeling of euphoria. Everything tastes, looks, feels, smells better. Things are brighter, sometimes you'll see streaks of light. It's like being stoned without the hazy feeling and it makes you extremly happy and much more talkative. For me it's great because I'm a quite guy, I don't say much. This helps me out a little to have a better time when I'm out.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:38 pm
by Keep It Real
You're using the drug to change your reality because it helps you make the choices you want to make (partying, socializing, not being shy). Realize that you can do this without E. Just worry about behaving instead of worrying how to behave. As you get used to doing this your mind will calm down and it'll come naturally. Everything you do on E you can do when you're not. I think if you think you have real problems with social anxiety the safe thing to do is talk to a psychiatrist and not look for a party drug to help you...

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:40 pm
by MKJ
dude, yer talking to a person who was convinced he was vulcan :icon19:

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:41 pm
by Keep It Real
haha he thought he was a vulcan?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:01 pm
by Guest
No, they're just full of shit and like to exagerate anything I say.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:03 pm
by Grudge
no you said you felt like a vulcan

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:13 pm
by Jackal
lol vulcan lol

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:56 pm
by Guest
Grudge wrote:no you said you felt like a vulcan
No I was discussing whether or not it was possible to have no emotions. The reason for this is because we're all logical beings but we're constantly influenced by biological chemicals which give us emotions and fuels our needs and desires. If you could train yourself not to act on these impulses you would have more control over your life and goals. It's a lot like zen actualy which already exists. You guys just don't understand wtf I'm talking about half the time cause it's either over your heads or I just explain it bad which happens, I'm not english.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:57 pm
by Keep It Real
whats the point of having goals if they're not emotionally influenced. Is that even possible?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:47 pm
by Guest
Keep It Real wrote:whats the point of having goals if they're not emotionally influenced. Is that even possible?
The goal is to be in complete harmony with everything around you, to be in a perfect zen like state. It would be an incredible feeling o have complete control over every aspect of your life. Even if it were for just a moment. I'm guessing buddhist and monks often refer to this as a state of enlightnment. Or whatever the term is they use.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:08 pm
by Jackal
Kracus wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:whats the point of having goals if they're not emotionally influenced. Is that even possible?
The goal is to be in complete harmony with everything around you, to be in a perfect zen like state. It would be an incredible feeling o have complete control over every aspect of your life. Even if it were for just a moment. I'm guessing buddhist and monks often refer to this as a state of enlightnment. Or whatever the term is they use.
Kracus you seriously have to be one of the biggest idiots I "know". I mean, I could put you next to a drooling retard and they would still be ahead of you. Why? Because they at least know they're a retard.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:12 pm
by Guest
Jackal, your opinon on anything will never mean anything to me. So you can cease and desist because you're a repetetive boring motherfucker. I KNOW you don't like me. If you have something new to say be my guest.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:16 pm
by Keep It Real
Kracus wrote: So you can cease and desist. I KNOW you don't like me.
:paranoid: :lol:

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:00 am
by Jackal
hahahahaha

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:21 am
by Hannibal
Kracus wrote:
Grudge wrote:no you said you felt like a vulcan
No I was discussing whether or not it was possible to have no emotions.
To have NO emotions is certainly not equivalent to having some CONTROL over them. You'll be on much safer ground if you drop talk of the former and stick to the latter.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:31 am
by Guest
Yeah well that's basicly what I meant. Like I said, I choose a poor way to explain things sometimes. Not my fault I'm not english. It's not like it's difficult to get what I mean by probing instead of just going off the fucking chart every time.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:32 am
by 4days
You guys just don't understand wtf kracus is talking about half the time cause it's either over your heads or he just explains it bad which happens, he's not english.