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Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:51 am
by Dark Metal
SoM wrote:Dark Metal on vacation
Not until next month.

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:06 am
by Doombrain
23 fucking guns in the hotel room

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:18 am
by Captain
What gun problem?

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:37 am
by MKJ
Remember Paris?
Trump wrote:"You can say what you want, but if they had guns, if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry -- it would've been a much, much different situation."

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:52 am
by vesp
Another mass shooting, and another round of "gunsplaining", conspiracy theories and other shit.

The USA is broken.

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:12 pm
by Eraser
[youtube]0ODeKJdhff0[/youtube]

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:18 pm
by seremtan
Ganemi wrote:We really need to be careful what we call terrorism.
yes we do, which is why i provided the standard definition of terrorism so as to avoid the predictable "it's only terrorism when brown people do it" or "it's terrorism if lots of people die" or "it's terrorism because i say so and fuck you" type response

we can call it the 'bullet drizzle sad time' if you prefer

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:25 pm
by Κracus
I really hate to say it but I'd love to hear Jesselnik's thoughts on this one...

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:49 am
by mrd
Pure madness. A local guy here was caught in this insanity and died... 23 years old. Parents' only son. I am sure they are thrilled. My co-worker was down on the strip with his wife and he said the entire strip was pure fucking chaos until close to 5 in the AM. Everything was locked down and a ton of people got fuckin' trampled from panicky people stampeding.

I always knew Las Vegas was the asshole of America but holy fuck... :dts:

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:07 am
by scared?
Only ppl who hate Vegas are religious fundies and pathetic borons...

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:28 am
by Ganemi
seremtan wrote:
Ganemi wrote:We really need to be careful what we call terrorism.
yes we do, which is why i provided the standard definition of terrorism so as to avoid the predictable "it's only terrorism when brown people do it" or "it's terrorism if lots of people die" or "it's terrorism because i say so and fuck you" type response

we can call it the 'bullet drizzle sad time' if you prefer
Yeah, I think we agree. It can't be terrorism if someone just goes somewhere and generally shoots at everyone. That's not terrorism. That time a white nationalist shot up a BLM protest, and again, was treated like the victim, that was definitely terrorism.

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:56 pm
by Ganemi
Shit, guess I was wrong.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-polit ... -terrorist

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:12 pm
by losCHUNK
Article says
“any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population.”
Google says
The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:20 pm
by scared?
i heard they were charging $20 fucking bucks for a single beer at that concert...at least shots were free...

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:02 am
by Ganemi
To clarify, in Vegas a mass shooting constitutes terrorism. I don't agree with that, but I didn't make Vegas' laws.

On a side note, I'm starting to feel queasy about doing anything related to shooters. Are there really this many crazy fucks going around that can't separate fantasy from reality?

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:50 am
by Eraser
[youtube]nV5fXPVeZoQ[/youtube]

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:42 pm
by seremtan
Ganemi wrote:Shit, guess I was wrong.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-polit ... -terrorist
were you? this reads like the expression of a *need* for this to be true - a need arising from a desire to distract from all the twats driving trucks into people in the name of allah

is 'mass murderer' not strong enough for this guy?

Re: Vegas...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:19 pm
by Ganemi
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Re: Vegas...

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:14 am
by losCHUNK
Alrighty

The full quote for Lombardo according to the transcript found in your link is as follows -
We believe it's a local individual. He resides here locally, I'm not at liberty to give you his place of residence yet because it's an ongoing investigation. We don't know what his belief system was at this time.
With reguard in NV law defining it as a terorist attack, well, i'd imagine it is because federal law will preside over it, as if the attacker were caught he would be tried in a federal court, which he wouldn't cos he doesn't meet the criteria to be a terrorist.

It's not really black and white (hohoho)