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Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:02 pm
by Transient
YourGrandpa wrote:Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content.
Even though they've already done it secretly, they promise not to do it again! (the uptick at the end is when Netflix paid Comcast off)
https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/ ... t-roundup/
YourGrandpa wrote:So if AT&T decides they are going to throttle specific content, everyone moves to Comcast.
Assuming they have that option. If you have 3+ choices offering broadband internet, you are the lucky exception that proves the rule.
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... er-speeds/
YourGrandpa wrote:Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around. But all you need is on detractor like Comcast and suddenly repealing net neutrality doesn't mean a thing.
Let's assume Comcast isn't blowing smoke up your ass and actually follows net neutrality practices in their business model. Do you think people are going to jump ship en masse and switch providers to Comcast because they're "doing the right thing" by not being total sleazebags? The bar has been lowered so fucking much... Like I've already said, they may not have Comcast service where they live. Let's not forget that investors will flip their shit when they learn that Comcast left money on the table.
I do believe I just cherry picked your entire post.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:52 am
by SOAPboy
Eraser wrote:Ler me guess... Comcast, AT&T and Verizon?
You're fucked, my friend
Verizon? Naw that shits all slowly being sold to Frontier. and
at that.
also
at gramps. so cute. You're that guy that calls your ISP and bitches with literally no clue what you are talking about. But dag nabit ur computers fine!
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:21 am
by dubz
shouldnt lifting regulations lead to neutrality? like blockchain technology is decentralizing?
if corporations have control and not the government, isnt that decentralized in a capitalist world?
so we have 2 problems that are named the same and both sides fighting for neutrality.
but dont you think its just a little strange that one side is being pushed on the net with tremendous force, just like they are doing it with anti trump stuff... and the same news outlets and media people? and the organisation leading the battle a soros funded group? the same soros that funds antifa, blm, fake antitrump protests,clintons and so many other fucking wicked things?
hear what this guy has to say for yourself
[youtube]s1IzN9tst28[/youtube]
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:45 am
by YourGrandpa
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:56 am
by losCHUNK
Fuck it
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:05 am
by SOAPboy
dubz wrote:
hear what this guy has to say for yourself
All I hear is "I LIKE DOLLARS TEEHEE"
Yep, I wanna pay extra to watch netflix because comcast is losing cable subscription rev, sounds good!
Man trumpers are gonna be maaaad when they have to pay extra for incest porn.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:16 pm
by seremtan
dubz wrote:shouldnt lifting regulations lead to neutrality? like blockchain technology is decentralizing?
if corporations have control and not the government, isnt that decentralized in a capitalist world?
so we have 2 problems that are named the same and both sides fighting for neutrality.
but dont you think its just a little strange that one side is being pushed on the net with tremendous force, just like they are doing it with anti trump stuff... and the same news outlets and media people? and the organisation leading the battle a soros funded group? the same soros that funds antifa, blm, fake antitrump protests,clintons and so many other fucking wicked things?
what... the actual fuck...
i have no idea what point you're trying to make here my dude
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:38 pm
by shaft
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:09 pm
by Κracus
Anyone that thinks something good will come if this passes has their head buried in the sand. Honestly, it's already bad enough as it is. Hearing telco's cry because they aren't making enough money makes my blood boil given how much taxpayer money goes into funding the infrastructure telco's use. Yeah I'm sorry your billions of dollars isn't enough for you.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:02 pm
by PhoeniX
I bet Trump tries to build a Great Firewall equivalent next. Can't build a real one? Build a digital one.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:08 pm
by Transient
It will be a big, beautiful wall with lots of Windows.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:17 pm
by dubz
a great firewall of western world is already developing. Facebook, Google, Twitter.. they all admitted before congress just recently to secretly censoring content. now to legitimize these actions they have put in place an ad hoc fact checker who is incidentally again a soros group.. they call this neutrality and they want it to stay this way.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:46 am
by Eraser
The Man!
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:25 pm
by Eraser
YourGrandpa wrote:Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content.
Surprise surprise! Comcast is already backpedaling on those promises:
But with Republican Ajit Pai now in charge at the Federal Communications Commission, Comcast's stance has changed. While the company still says it won't block or throttle Internet content, it has dropped its promise about not instituting paid prioritization.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... nes/?amp=1
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:46 pm
by Transient
But they promised...
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:13 am
by SOAPboy
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:20 am
by YourGrandpa
YourGrandpa wrote:Eraser wrote:Cherry picking?
Yes, cherry picking..
You focus on.
"Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content."
Ignore.
"Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around."
Then pretend my comment somehow insinuates I believe Comcast's claim.
When in fact I actually said.
"But all you need is one detractor like Comcast"
Fuck you.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:08 am
by Transient
Transient wrote:YourGrandpa wrote:Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content.
Even though they've already done it secretly, they promise not to do it again! (the uptick at the end is when Netflix paid Comcast off)
https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/ ... t-roundup/
YourGrandpa wrote:So if AT&T decides they are going to throttle specific content, everyone moves to Comcast.
Assuming they have that option. If you have 3+ choices offering broadband internet, you are the lucky exception that proves the rule.
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... er-speeds/
YourGrandpa wrote:Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around. But all you need is on detractor like Comcast and suddenly repealing net neutrality doesn't mean a thing.
Let's assume Comcast isn't blowing smoke up your ass and actually follows net neutrality practices in their business model. Do you think people are going to jump ship en masse and switch providers to Comcast because they're "doing the right thing" by not being total sleazebags? The bar has been lowered so fucking much... Like I've already said, they may not have Comcast service where they live. Let's not forget that investors will flip their shit when they learn that Comcast left money on the table.
I do believe I just cherry picked your entire post.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:29 am
by YourGrandpa
I believe the market will find a balance. People will obviously make choices based on availability and they will ALWAYS choose the provider with the least net restrictions. Repealing net neutrality might also spawn upstarts who's sole purpose is to undercut the big guys with their hands in your pockets. I never said I believed Comcast. I also said repealing net neutrality is not something I agree with. But you fuck sticks have to be upset about something, so you cherry/nit pick my comments and make asinine assumptions to argue a like opinion.
Grow up.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:45 am
by Transient
I addressed every part of your post, I didn't cherry pick shit. But like usual, you get this super-defensive tunnel vision and latch onto a notion that everyone's out to get you, instead of realizing you just keep spouting the most ignorant, half-baked ideas that beg to be picked apart.
How can the market find a balance if Comcast has their thumb on the scale? You might not have implicitly said you believe Comcast, but you were happy to imply it to support your argument.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:31 am
by YourGrandpa
When you pull a post apart and address it in pieces, you are cherry picking the discussion. My original comment as a whole didn't support net neutrality and suggested competition might battle it out by offering less net restrictions. Nothing really polarizing there...
Comcast doesn't own the internet. Comcast has competition in every market. Most people have more than one option for internet service and will always make choices based on what's best for them. Balance will be found in the customer's search/desire for more suitable services and the market's desire to retain/attain those customers. Simple law of supply and demand...
I'm not defensive at all. The reality is some people here are looking to argue anything I say. Even if they agree. I've obviously truly upset those people. They are so upset that they take my quotes and put them in their footers for years... Like that somehow doesn't shine a light on how upset they are.
You going to be okay?
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:43 am
by losCHUNK
That's not cherry picking, cherry picking is when you take part of a quote to remove it from context, without including anything else.
Trans disassembled the quote in its entirety.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:49 am
by Transient
Looks like you don't know what cherry picking is, Gwamps.
It took all of 1 minute to make that quote my sig, then I promptly forgot about it. The only time I remember is when you bring it up, which happens every month or so. No, it certainly hasn't gotten to you.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:52 am
by YourGrandpa
losCHUNK wrote:That's not cherry picking, cherry picking is when you take part of a quote to remove it from context, without including anything else.
Trans disassembled the quote in its entirety.
A comment's true meaning is in it's entirety. If you argue pieces of a comment without considering the other content, you are cherry picking.
Re: FCC planning to repeal net neutrality
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:54 am
by YourGrandpa
Transient wrote:Looks like you don't know what cherry picking is, Gwamps.
It took all of 1 minute to make that quote my sig, then I promptly forgot about it. The only time I remember is when you bring it up, which happens every month or so. No, it certainly hasn't gotten to you.
I upset you enough to put it there and keep it there, doofus. Figure that out.
