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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:37 am
by SplishSplash
I just don't understand what positive sides there are to believing in a completely ridiculous science-fiction story and giving Ron Hubbard all your money.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:45 am
by diego
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:diego wrote:still true
i meant mjrpes beat you to the punch, you sexy man, you.
Goddamnit...

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:47 am
by mjrpes
diego wrote:+JuggerNaut+ wrote:diego wrote:still true
i meant mjrpes beat you to the punch, you sexy man, you.
Goddamnit...

It's alright. I put my link at the end of my post, where people aren't going to see it .... since that would require reading my shitty post

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:13 am
by Ryoki
Holy fuck, that Xenu site absolutely destroys scientology in every possible way.
The email conversations in particular are very revealing as to what kind of people join this cult, and what happens to their reasoning abilities.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:58 am
by [xeno]Julios
Grandpa Stu wrote:are you serious puff? cuz i've actually recently gotten into scientology myself. have you taken any courses yet?
so far i fail to see any reason while scientology is bad and why some people like to bash on it so much. it has had an odd history i must admit though. just the subject and history of scientology is fascinating in itself.
i hope you're trolling grandpa.
Scientology is an incredibly dangerous organization. I spent about 6 months researching it intensively while trying to help counsel a couple kids out of it, who were born into it (their parents were part of sea org). Their lives are in total ruin, as is the family.
They probably sucked you in with their fancy posters and "personality" test.
Stay..
the fuck..
away.
Look for the may 1991 time magazine feature on it.
There are also quite a few documentaries and interview available online (probably at xenu.net)
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:03 pm
by [xeno]Julios
Ryoki wrote:I've always held the believe that the Scientology Church has some foul and incriminating dirt on it's most famous supporters - perhaps they got their hands on some sort of Tom Cruise gay porn video, or evidence of some serious Travolta drug abuse or something.
i think the travolta thing was a gay thing too.
They do indeed keep records of these things. It's an insurance thing for them. They keep your deepest secrets on record, and then if you try to leave they threaten exposing them.
They get these secrets during a process of thetan exorcision, which is really psychological terrorism.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:14 pm
by Doombrain
People who are stupid or weak enough ALMOST deserve everything they get from these cults.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:14 pm
by seremtan
Pext wrote:tethans :icon19:
Thetans, iirc. I read somewhere that the best way to 'exteriorise your inner thetan' was with a loaded .45 :lol:
ffs, you might as well become a Jedi or a devotee of Paul Muad'Dib or some other sci-fi shit as take up this crock of a 'religion'.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:25 pm
by Nightshade
The sad thing is that it's really no different than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam in many respects.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:31 pm
by Therac-26
Nightshade wrote:The sad thing is that it's really no different than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam in many respects.
The problems aren't with the philosophy (fuck, these days you can belive that Batman is god), the problems are with the large, criminial organization that runs it. They are pretty much the epitome of evil, destructive behaviour.
(Sure, there might have been a few cult-like Christian churches in the past that were as evil as Scientology, but they didn't realize what Scientology discovered -- you can be as evil as you want, if you have lots of money and lots of lawyers).
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:37 pm
by Freakaloin
i thought the deal with scientology was the more money u give them the higher u move up in levels or whatever until u get to talk to the aliens like john travolta and tom cruise...
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:38 pm
by Jackal
The only problem with the post above me is that he's assuming Batman isn't God.
edit: fucking goof, getting in the way.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:41 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
when i reattain my god-like powers, i will crush you all
except for stu
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:33 pm
by The PlainisT
i became a plainist for the spiritual rewards :shugar:
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:21 pm
by Guest
lol
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:33 pm
by MKJ
":shugar:"

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:53 pm
by R00k
“’Psychiatry’ and ‘psychiatrist’ are easily redefined to mean ‘an anti-social enemy of the people‘. This takes the kill crazy psychiatrist off the preferred list of professions...The redefinition of words is done by associating different emotions and symbols with the word than were intended...Scientologists are redefining ‘doctor‘, ‘Psychiatry’ and ‘psychology’ to mean ‘undesirable antisocial elements‘...The way to redefine a word is to get the new definition repeated as often as possible. Thus it is necessary to redefine medicine, psychiatry and psychology downward and define Dianetics and Scientology upwards. This, so far as words are concerned, is the public opinion battle for belief in your definitions, and not those of the opposition. A consistent, repeated effort is the key to any success with this technique of propaganda.”
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 5 October 1971, PR Series 12, “Propaganda by Redefinition of Words”
Shit, that's just creepy.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:59 pm
by [xeno]Julios
that's literally just scratching the surface. They had a period where they were heavily into black ops. Also look up stuff on clearwater florida. They practically owned the city. It's very disturbing.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:25 pm
by 4days
The worldwide "spiritual headquarters" of the Church of Scientology is located in the city of Clearwater, Florida[1] (
http://flag.org/). Officially known in Scientology as Flag Land Base, this international headquarters was founded in the late 1970s when an anonymous Scientology-founded group called "United Council of Churches" purchased the Fort Harrison Hotel for $3 million.
The citizens and City Council of Clearwater did not realize that the building's owners were actually the Church of Scientology until after the building's purchase. Clearwater citizens groups, headed by Mayor Gabe Cazares, rallied against Scientology establishing a base in the city (repeatedly referring to the organization as a cult), but Flag Land Base was established nonetheless.
In the years since its foundation, Flag Land Base has expanded as the church has gradually purchased additional property in the downtown Clearwater area. Its relationship with the city has repeatedly moved between "friendly" and "hostile," as the church has worked with the city to establish better relations; while at the same time actively opposing the local St. Petersburg Times newspaper and even protesting the Clearwater police department.
Scientology's largest project in Clearwater has been the construction of a huge high-rise complex called the "Super Power Building," an enormous structure whose highest point, when completed, will be a huge Scientology cross that will tower over the city.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:35 pm
by Hannibal
Had no idea that they were this organized and fruity.