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Geebs wrote:I am a neoconservative pundit.
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mjrpes wrote:What a gay program (and company, indirectly). Information shouldn't be regulated by large mega-conglomerates like Enron, Wal*Mart, and Opera. It should be free like a misty morning, dew on the wings of a young dove, and apple pie like only grandmother can make.
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Geebs wrote:
rep wrote:Interestingly, Japanese women who follow Western-style, meat-based diets are eight times more likely to develop breast cancer than women who follow a more traditional plant-based diet.
I suppose that your copy-pasting didn't turn up the fact that the Japanese have one of the world's highest rates of oesophageal cancer, so much so that they're the only country which feels the need to do screening endoscopies? Thought not.
They eat a lot of fish though. Quote from Rising Sun: "If I want to eat mercury, I'll swallow a thermometer."
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rep wrote:"Similarly, breast cancer rates are dramatically lower in nations, such as China"
that's because chinese women have tiny boobies
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rep wrote:"Numerous epidemiological and clinical studies have shown that vegetarians are nearly 50 percent less likely to die from cancer than non-vegetarians. "
I tried finding the source of that quote, and found this:

http://www.veginfo.org/health.php

I was curious as to seeing clinical studies that proved this, as I find it hard to imagine a clinical study being able to do so effectively.

The page i linked to has a reference number, but there are NO FUCKING REFERENCES.

The page said that it got the article from PCRM (Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine), so I went there, and did a search for the article (using the exact phrase search to be sure).

http://www.pcrm.org/search/?site=0&path ... tion=exact

Nothing turned up, so I went to the clinical research area of the page.

http://www.pcrm.org/health/clinres/

There were three articles, none of which dealt with cancer. The first of them was a review paper that didn't have any references! The only one that had references was the second one, but even that was a review paper that looked like it had been written by a college student.

Here is the opening sentences of the third paper (which consists of four small paragraphs):
Overweight is increasingly common in the United States.
So, my question is: where are these clinical studies - not saying they don't exist - i'd just like to review them.
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rep wrote:
mjrpes wrote:Information shouldn't be regulated by large mega-conglomerates like Enron, Wal*Mart, and Opera.
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Opera is a mega-conglomerate?! That's it. Funniest quote of the night.
Opera owns significant holdings in 57% of companies in the fortune 500, while managing and operating 207 child companies that span geographical regions such as China, Spain and South Africa and industries as diverse as sand-oil refining in the Artic circle of Canada and first rate advertisement agencies on 5th avenue. If that doesn't make Opera a mega-fucking-conglomerate than either you're a stupid retard or a shitfuck pulling my leg so hard that it's retardedly stupid.
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seremtan wrote:
Geebs wrote:
rep wrote:Interestingly, Japanese women who follow Western-style, meat-based diets are eight times more likely to develop breast cancer than women who follow a more traditional plant-based diet.
I suppose that your copy-pasting didn't turn up the fact that the Japanese have one of the world's highest rates of oesophageal cancer, so much so that they're the only country which feels the need to do screening endoscopies? Thought not.
They eat a lot of fish though. Quote from Rising Sun: "If I want to eat mercury, I'll swallow a thermometer."
Rising Sun is openly racist, so you'd expect them to get that wrong. It's actually thought to be nitrosamines in fish that do it. I was just pointing out that randomly throwing out these epidemiological "facts" is a bit pointless, especially when they compare two completely different populations. It's like saying that eating plantain gives you sickle cell.....
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rep wrote:"Happily, eating a healthy, low-fat, vegan diet-free of animal products-has no downside, as it also significantly reduces the chances of getting such serious problems as heart disease, stroke, hypertension, and digestive-tract cancers. "

Opera owns. I've got a plethora of useful quotes in Opera Notes, easily accessed by clicking the Notes panel.
Quote your references. There's people on the internet who claim to eat nothing but light, you twat.

On a similar note, a mediteranean diet has been proved to be beneficial. This is not just epidemiology; it's been tried in different ethnic groups. See the BMJ for details

See? It's easy to provide references. MEDline is free to use for all; and you're still copy-pasting stuff which seems to agree with you with no attempt to actually critique your sources.
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Post by Canidae »

Some molds that grow on fruits and grains produce toxins that can kill you so, yes, eat it and die! :)
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Post by tnf »

rep wrote:No, but you will get it from eating meat.
Not will.

Might increase your odds, depending on amounts, types, etc.
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Geebs wrote:
rep wrote:"Happily, eating a healthy, low-fat, vegan diet-free of animal products-has no downside, as it also significantly reduces the chances of getting such serious problems as heart disease, stroke, hypertension, and digestive-tract cancers. "

Opera owns. I've got a plethora of useful quotes in Opera Notes, easily accessed by clicking the Notes panel.
Quote your references. There's people on the internet who claim to eat nothing but light, you twat.

On a similar note, a mediteranean diet has been proved to be beneficial. This is not just epidemiology; it's been tried in different ethnic groups. See the BMJ for details

See? It's easy to provide references. MEDline is free to use for all; and you're still copy-pasting stuff which seems to agree with you with no attempt to actually critique your sources.
What are these scientific journals and references you speak of? They might have made my graduate career and grant writing days much easier...
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rep wrote::lol: How about fifth grade English? :lol:
Hey dipshit awnser this one. If you spell so well why are you so fucking retarded?
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tnf wrote:
Geebs wrote:
rep wrote:"Happily, eating a healthy, low-fat, vegan diet-free of animal products-has no downside, as it also significantly reduces the chances of getting such serious problems as heart disease, stroke, hypertension, and digestive-tract cancers. "

Opera owns. I've got a plethora of useful quotes in Opera Notes, easily accessed by clicking the Notes panel.
Quote your references. There's people on the internet who claim to eat nothing but light, you twat.

On a similar note, a mediteranean diet has been proved to be beneficial. This is not just epidemiology; it's been tried in different ethnic groups. See the BMJ for details

See? It's easy to provide references. MEDline is free to use for all; and you're still copy-pasting stuff which seems to agree with you with no attempt to actually critique your sources.
What are these scientific journals and references you speak of? They might have made my graduate career and grant writing days much easier...
erm, you didn't know about PubMed?

Not much there on the vegan diet though.

Err hang on, was that irony? Just finished my night shift and the filter's a bit out of whack :paranoid:
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Post by tnf »

It was sarcasm. :paranoid:

And yea, I used to use PubMed all the time. Still use it for my own reference, but not in the same manner as I did during graduate school.
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plained wrote:ey fb i think if you chug back enough gibberins you may get some extra this n that
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mjrpes wrote:
MKJ wrote:
rep wrote:
Opera owns. I've got a plethora of useful quotes in Opera Notes, easily accessed by clicking the Notes panel.
you should be in an informercial :dork:
You do have to admit that he used the word plethora in its proper context.
Hadn't really noticed anyone using it in the wrong context. :)
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