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lol :icon26:

AmIdYfReAk wrote:Hey! it was a manly wave

it's not about the sexual minority

Massive Quasars wrote:Eraser, this development in particular doesn't affect the belief in an immaterial soul.

Well, it does in some way and it most definitely paves the way towards a much more solid argument against the belief of there being a heaven or something like that.

I mean, is there a difference between being clinically dead and being "spiritually" dead? Is the moment the soul transcends into another state of existence not the moment someone is clinically dead? When is someone irreversibly dead?

I guess they can always say that the soul can be "pulled back" out of heaven or something like that

yea, But something like that IMO Shouldent be done.. thats like walking into a shut down nuke power plant and "reviving it"..

you dont know what powers and shit you are fucking with.

That's only a scary thought for the people who believe there are "supernatural" powers to begin with. I'm pretty much of the observation that humans are nothing more than chemical processes and electric pulses.

Like a car, if you make sure it doesn't rust to bits you can still get it running decades later.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:that is somthing that shouldent be fucked with.. .

if something/someone dies.. let it be, it was ment to happen..

so you feel doctors shouldnt use defibrillators, then? because it was ment to happen ?
and what about surgery to prevent death, like say the removal of the appendix ?

how about a bandaid when you cut your finger? or some cough syrup perhaps ?
where do you draw the line sir.

this isnt to revive people who have been dead n buried for 10 years, this is to increase the chances for survival in lets say the ambulance after someone gets hit by a truck.

i can't wait till we bring back people who've been dead for days and the religious zealouts stage mass suicides to protest what they see as the practise of tearing souls out of heaven and stuffing them back into their former vessels. That oughtta thin out the bible thumping flock.

I'm all for religiously motivated mass suicides :icon14:

AmIdYfReAk wrote:that is somthing that shouldent be fucked with.. .

if something/someone dies.. let it be, it was ment to happen..

1. wait until its you dying and then see how much you think your premature death was meant to happen.

2. if someone was born with the brains to resurect motherfuckers, isnt that a pretty good hint that it was meant to happen.

3. no major difference between this and people looking for a cure for cancer

Many supporters of cryonics, and it's further advancement, are religious people. These people have come up with ways of reconciling their faith with the implications of possible future reanimation. Their support stands even as current methods of cryonic suspension have yet to demonstrate that they can sufficiently retain the body and (more importantly) brain's information and structure for the purpose of possible future reanimation. If you're too damaged, it may be physically impossible to pull you back by any technological means.

Now settle down y'all.

To me the the idea of someone getting shot dead (obviously not in the head) and getting the requisite transplants/repairs and then being reanimated seems fucking amazing. Very cool stuff.

mik0rs wrote:To me the the idea of someone getting shot dead (obviously not in the head) and getting the requisite transplants/repairs and then being reanimated seems fucking amazing. Very cool stuff.

innit

also if it gets sold in poundland or somming it could lead to some pretty neat april fools jokes

Hahahaha :icon19:

Eraser wrote: Bull. There is no determinism in this universe. Nothing is "ment" to happen, they just happen. I'm pretty sure that if this becomes known among a bigger audience, religious people will start lobbying against it since, quite frankly, it totally destroys the idea of a spirit or soul going to heaven and such things.

this is weird, and makes the assumption that a soul is tied to an individual, which I doubt your qualified to do :icon27: In fact, I doubt you or anyone else knows much about the soul and what it is meant to do or not do.

isn't that exactly what the general assumption is that religious people make?

Heheh Eraser looks exactly at the world the way i do.

Ryoki wrote:Heheh Eraser looks exactly at the world the way i do.

Great minds think alike

Ryoki wrote:Heheh Eraser looks exactly at the world the way i do.

you mean, like, homo-erotic ?

MKJ wrote:

Ryoki wrote:Heheh Eraser looks exactly at the world the way i do.

you mean, like, homo-erotic ?

MKJ wrote:

Ryoki wrote:Heheh Eraser looks exactly at the world the way i do.

you mean, like, homo-erotic ?

:icon28:

Eraser wrote:isn't that exactly what the general assumption is that religious people make?

I guess that makes you either complicit, or religious then since your making the same assumption just in the opposite direction

S@M wrote:

Eraser wrote:isn't that exactly what the general assumption is that religious people make?

I guess that makes you either complicit, or religious then since your making the same assumption just in the opposite direction

naaaah, I'm just basing my ideas of whatever scientific facts there are to support the idea of there being a soul. Since there are none, I'm not going to have blind faith for such an idea

I thought a few things about this...

I mean, you DIE, everything is there to suggest you are dead, so thats what life is like for you when you die. Now what if somebody pulled you back out of that death after you have seen it?

That would fuck me up just a tad

Its fantastic if it keeps your from death for an hour on the way to hospital from some car crash. Its a horrible thought if you use it to cheat death. You shouldn't mess with fate, it will only catch up with you.

o'dium wrote:You shouldn't mess with fate, it will only catch up with you.

Now that's just being superstitious :\
There is no such thing as fate (or ghosts, or vampires or eskimos).

Woot for overpopulation.