So feedback is an out in the open homo while andyman is in the closet...got it...
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:29 pm
by LawL
Plan B wrote:Hehe, trying to get a rise out of seremtan.
When suddenly, a white knight appears!
Sorry to ruin your plans by destroying you.
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:31 pm
by LawL
scared? wrote:Ur pecs are pathetically shaped...
You don't have any pecs.
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:42 pm
by seremtan
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I'm quite sure feedback is. Perhaps andyman is only "curious"?
or perhaps he yearns to be this guy
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:03 pm
by feedback
Rudy Reyes played himself, he is that awesome
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:16 pm
by feedback
scared? wrote:Ur pecs are pathetically shaped...
your children are pathetically shaped... next
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:48 pm
by scared?
meh...one is too fat, 2 are too skinny but the rest are perfectly shaped...u lose...next...
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:00 pm
by [xeno]Julios
andyman wrote:just a future underwear model
jules i don't deadlift, don't know what my max is.
why the fuck not?
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:10 pm
by andyman
deadlifts have no place in an oly program. just clean pulls, sometimes clean deadlifts but not in classical cycles, which actually start next monday.
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:15 pm
by scared?
Deadlifts always have a place in your workout...unless ur a moron...
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:39 pm
by andyman
well then you're a moron? what the fuck good is a heavy deadlift if you can't get under it and stand it up? any person can pick up a loaded bar from the ground. takes actual skill and athleticism to get under it and stand.
Re: Well hell may be freezing over (workout)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:07 pm
by [xeno]Julios
andyman wrote:deadlifts have no place in an oly program. just clean pulls, sometimes clean deadlifts but not in classical cycles, which actually start next monday.
wouldn't strengthening your deadlift enhance your ability to produce more power in the cleans?
Here's a quote:
I agree that Olympic weightlifting is an excellent expression of strength through its derivative quantity power. Power is best understood as strength displayed quickly, and as such, power is dependent on strength. You know this because it is blatantly obvious that an athlete with a 500 lb. deadlift has a higher power clean than an athlete with a 200 lb. deadlift. Always true, every time. You cannot clean what you are not strong enough to get off the floor, and the stronger you are the more you can clean. The power that is produced when a weight is accelerated is a function of the ability to recruit the neuromuscular machinery necessary to develop the force to accelerate it. Therefore, another factor plays a large role in the ability to excel in weightlifting – the ability to make the force develop explosively. This ability is heavily dependent on the genetic capacity for explosive movement, and to say that it is predictive of elite levels of performance is a gross understatement.
So, here’s the deal: The snatch and the clean and jerk are not themselves capable of producing an increase in absolute strength over the long term, and are incapable of continuing to produce an increase in their own performance when trained in the absence of heavy squats, deadlifts, and upper-body strength exercises that constitute an absolute strength overload. In other words, programs that rely solely on the snatch, the clean & jerk, their derivative exercises, and front squats in the absence of regularly programmed increases in the basic strength movements do not produce international-level performances for athletes with less than elite genetics or the use of anabolic steroids. Furthermore, it is quite likely that an athlete cannot reach his absolute potential in the Olympic lifts until he approaches the same limit in training his absolute strength. Louie Simmons is on record as saying that we lose in Olympic weightlifting at the international level because we are not as strong as they are. He may be wrong about some of the details, but he is dead-ass on the money in his general assessment.
