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Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:09 am
by SOAPboy
dubz wrote:answer the questions above

You lost your argument about polls and now shift to something else. :olo:

Whats up trump jr fox news? :olo:

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:24 am
by MKJ
when all else fails, resort to whataboutism

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:00 am
by dubz
did any of you have any arguments at all? no.. except for red font guy trying in his ordinary way of reading headlines and make the rest up way..

why the polls were so off remains unanswered, chunk only pointed out the last week.... i dont see any headlines calling for a complete revision of polling practices now that the trump polls were so inaccurate.... polls are still working, statisticians know it, politician know it, reporters play dumb..

while you ponder on that i gave you another example of msm conspiracy which i tought would be easier to understand as its just real straight forward facts.


will anyone answer the last 3? all these condescending attitudes and only chunk with the balls to share his view..

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:01 am
by dubz
is sending debate questions secretly to one candidate even a legal thing? if they all did it to advance one candidate is that a conspiracy?

are you gonna deny that hillary got the debate questions beforehand?

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:33 am
by Transient
Yes, yes, and no.

That was easy.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:44 am
by Eraser
What amazes me here is that conspiracy theorists usually take some sort of fact and then come up with a crazy ass theory about how said fact came to fruition.
dubz isn't even arguing about a fact here. He's arguing that there was a conspiracy for something that didn't even end up happening.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:53 am
by dubz
hillary still lost, despite the conspiracy

transient seems to agree there was a conspiracy...


can you anwser the same 3 quesitons eraser?

lets see what results you get...

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:11 am
by Transient
Just remember, conspiring doesn't necessarily mean breaking the law. The DNC is a private organization and they're allowed to make (and break) any rules they want. :miffed:

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:32 pm
by shaft
Transient wrote:Yes, yes, and no.

That was easy.
Futher proof we never went to the moon. :!:

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:37 pm
by shaft
MKJ wrote:when all else fails, resort to whataboutism
Slowly making their way from Trumps lies about TIME to “but her emails”.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:01 pm
by losCHUNK
dubz wrote:did any of you have any arguments at all? no.. except for red font guy trying in his ordinary way of reading headlines and make the rest up way..

why the polls were so off remains unanswered, chunk only pointed out the last week.... i dont see any headlines calling for a complete revision of polling practices now that the trump polls were so inaccurate.... polls are still working, statisticians know it, politician know it, reporters play dumb..

while you ponder on that i gave you another example of msm conspiracy which i tought would be easier to understand as its just real straight forward facts.


will anyone answer the last 3? all these condescending attitudes and only chunk with the balls to share his view..
:smirk:

I told you why the polls tightened in the final week and how they were inaccurate in their prediction, told you why polls will never be perfect, gave you 4 examples of how they've been wrong in the past. There were no headlines involved in this and gave you the data to show it and held your hand as I walked you through it. They don't need to change their method as like I said, it will never be perfect, increasing the sample size won't help and the logistics of collecting data for all states and presenting information takes time so will still be slow to react to situations if collected more frequently. All you could retort to was 'but polls are always accurate / the statisticians can't be wrong' with some added tag lines without actually addressing anything I told you.

You seem to now agree that the polls were accurate in the final week, they were accurate throughout, the inaccurate thing with polls is their interpretation which is prone to swings and incomplete data, that was was wrong in the final week and I've said why.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:49 pm
by dubz
how come hillarys camp had the right poll numbers internally? they point this out in their conversations that the media polls are all off in hillarys favor... i already linked you to these emails when it first came out. thats another fact you cant dispute but you keep on theorizing...

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:00 am
by dubz
shaft wrote:
MKJ wrote:when all else fails, resort to whataboutism
Slowly making their way from Trumps lies about TIME to “but her emails”.
you gave the sarcastic remark about a conspiracy, thats why we are expanding the topic.

are you afraid or unable to defend your vies? or why do you dodge? obviously you want to play...

so please answer the 3 questions, its pretty simple

is sending debate questions secretly to one candidate even a legal thing? if they all did it to advance one candidate is that a conspiracy?

are you gonna deny that hillary got the debate questions beforehand?

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:14 am
by losCHUNK
dubz wrote:how come hillarys camp had the right poll numbers internally? they point this out in their conversations that the media polls are all off in hillarys favor... i already linked you to these emails when it first came out. thats another fact you cant dispute but you keep on theorizing...

It's not theorising it's how polls work. You won't even address it.

The Podesta email is just requesting polls and they were provided, they probably paid them for the service as they are a company, paid extra for how to interprate them, Trump could've done the same. Also they can apply whatever formula they want it doesn't mean the media will use it, it's just something they can use to target groups and shout how things aren't so bad. It means absolutely bugger all and Trump done the same.

But more importantly you say the email says how the polls are in Hillarys favour ?, in this link ? (it was the only one) -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... versamples .

This Email, the only one on the page, saying how much Hillary is leading by ? (it doesn't)

[lvlshot]http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/ ... %201_0.jpg[/lvlshot]

Look at the date you dopey cunt.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:22 am
by dubz
wrong email

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:23 am
by losCHUNK
So you were wrong again.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:26 am
by shaft
Stop wasting your time. The guy can't even look objectively at what so called heavily skewed numbers in Clinton favor did. His conspiracy doesn't even make any fucking sense. Its like saying Comey was conspiring with Clinton to help her lose.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:44 am
by dubz
why do you dodge 3 simple questions.. afraid or unable to defend your views?

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:36 am
by shaft
Undercover sting operation by Project Veritas against WaPo discovered.

This whole story is gold.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:10 am
by Transient
No wonder the GOP keeps thinking Dems are making shit up, it's classic projection.

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:58 pm
by shaft
Lucky for O’keefe most Trump voters won’t care as his narrative makes conspiracy junkies like dubz rock hard. Facts are a minor inconvenience.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/935485196689920007[/tweet]

Re: President Trump

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:09 pm
by shaft
shaft wrote:Undercover sting operation by Project Veritas against WaPo discovered.

This whole story is gold.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

Now compare that story to this beautiful piece of journalism from last week.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/briansflood/status/ ... 1584942081[/tweet]

Re: President Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:55 pm
by MKJ
Jesus Christ this guy

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/ ... index.html

Re: President Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:07 pm
by Doombrain
I saw it blow up on twater. It will only make him stronger :tard:

Re: President Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:57 pm
by seremtan
"plotting liberal agenda"

wat :dts: