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Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:56 pm
by creep
Allow me to translate doombrain's post for the layman:
doombrain wrote:Dave made me look silly because I have no clue what I'm talking about, so here's so jibberish technical crap. Btw, I sell toner. Hey! Neat pics!
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:00 pm
by Doombrain
4x4
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:11 pm
by Dave
creep wrote:Allow me to translate doombrain's post for the layman:
doombrain wrote:Dave made me look silly because I have no clue what I'm talking about, so here's so jibberish technical crap. Btw, I sell toner. Hey! Neat pics!
Actually, the stuff db explained in his post, especially the last steps in PS/the printer driver are the parts most people fuck up and waste ink/paper on... which is why I say a crap jpeg in the hands of someone who knows how to print fares a better chance than a perfect tiff in the hands of someone who doesn't.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:12 pm
by Doombrain
Dave wrote:Like I said, I've had jpegs (sourced from a98 raw) on billboards, full color media guides, magazines, and newspapers. If anythings cause shit looking prints or horrid color, it's high ISO, piss-poor processing or someone who doesn't know how to print. If you have to blow the fucking thing up and start staring at pixels to see distortions you can't view at the size you're going to print, you're wasting your time... especially when most of the people posting stuff here aren't exactly going to be selling to galleries anytime soon. Online bookmakers like Blurb won't take TIFF and if you trying sending A98 files through Aperture you'll get back washed color. Not they are exactly professional, but I wouldn't want to spend 30K to have a book made with a custom maker.
Here's an illustration with a big png:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/191 ... fd06_o.png
One of the 100% crops is a tiff, the other from a 10/12 JPEG and the third is a difference overlay of one crop over the other. Tell me which is which. Since png is virtually lossless, it's as fair a comparison as you're going to be able to make over the internet.
When I scan film, I scan at 4000 dpi, 14 bit color and save as tiff. When I edit digital or film, I always use a raw source, adjustment layers (I rarely touch the original layer) and keep it in PS format. In other words, I don't use JPEG, but I also don't think it's going to fuck you over if you use it right.
just gone over your post again because creep upset me.
you should really stick to sRGB for billboards, full color media guides, magazines, and newspapers etc because 99.9% of presses can't handle aRGB, only sRGB converted to SWOP CMYK. aRGB is well outside of any CMYK gamut. the result is washed out images, use less tey have a 12 colour speedmaster or some shit that cost over 15mil.
PS the top one is the jpg.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:44 pm
by plained
hey wtf i can learn cant i?
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:26 am
by LawL
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:54 am
by DRuM
creep wrote:Allow me to translate doombrain's post for the layman:
doombrain wrote:Dave made me look silly because I have no clue what I'm talking about, so here's so jibberish technical crap. Btw, I sell toner. Hey! Neat pics!
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:24 am
by Massive Quasars
lol consulting work
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:27 pm
by Doombrain
it pays well
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:37 pm
by vesp
It does indeed
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:01 am
by Dave
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:13 am
by Massive Quasars
Doombrain wrote:it pays well
my point
enjoy it all the same
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:14 am
by saturn
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:45 am
by Fender
very nice
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:10 am
by ForM
Agreed.
Love Sat's second one.
Beer bottles for the connoisseurs. All four I highly recommend if you like beer.
And my kids.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:41 am
by Fanatic X
saturn wrote:insert Church images from Italy
I'm jealous...
Must have been a great sight.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:02 pm
by saturn
Thanks guys....Rome has an insane amount of beautiful churches, around 370. They're all open and you just enter the building. The middle photo is taken while we were hiding from rain. Crazy how something so beautiful and dedicated is hidden from sight.
I threw a nickle in the Trevi fountain so I'll return to Rome some time.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:05 pm
by saturn
ForM wrote:Agreed.
Love Sat's second one.
Beer bottles for the connoisseurs. All four I highly recommend if you like beer.
If you can get your hands on special Belgian beers...get them. They're the best tasting beers in the world. For example: Leffe, Westmalle, Duvel, Jupiler are more mainstream brands which shouldn't be too hard to get.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:18 pm
by Doombrain
i just got back from a business trip to dublin. only managed to take one fucking picture
It was pissing down when i landed and had wall to wall meetings until we went drinking. I'm a bit pissed off about it.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:58 pm
by Doombrain
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:55 am
by ForM
An excuse to take pictures. Take the dog out for a walk.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:44 am
by Scourge
ForM wrote:Agreed.
Love Sat's second one.
Beer bottles for the connoisseurs. All four I highly recommend if you like beer.
That Lump of Coal is calling my name.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:02 am
by Fanatic X
A massive earthquake rocks Vancouver...
Or is it just a nice foggy weekend morning?
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:20 am
by Dr_Watson
^^ that is fucking awesome.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:03 am
by Dave
We got fog too.. Haven't had time to do anything about it, though
