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Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:07 pm
by saturn
The price will go down, maybe before Photokina. I don't think Canon can release a new 5DII 500-700 bucks cheaper, sensors that big aren't cheap (yet).
People are wondering if this is a brilliant or incredibly stupid move from Nikon. I'm not sure yet. They've shown that they're back at the front with the D300 and D3. The D700 fills in a niche that was only occupied by the 5D so far......I don't know yet
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:17 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
18 k for a camera?
You better be able to fuck it for that price.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:23 pm
by Wabbit
GONNAFISTYA wrote:You better be able to fuck it for that price.
For you, it probably wouldn't be a problem.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:49 pm
by saturn
The Eurodam Cruiseship from the Holland America Line. I think it has some 2100 beds. It was docked for a few days in Rotterdam, what a massive boat.

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:07 pm
by Dave
GONNAFISTYA wrote:18 k for a camera?
You better be able to fuck it for that price.
That 18K camera runs rings around Canon's best in picture quality and about 2.5 times the number of pixels of Nikon's best. The only thing it doesn't compete at is sensitivity.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:16 pm
by Dave
saturn wrote:The price will go down, maybe before Photokina. I don't think Canon can release a new 5DII 500-700 bucks cheaper, sensors that big aren't cheap (yet).
People are wondering if this is a brilliant or incredibly stupid move from Nikon. I'm not sure yet. They've shown that they're back at the front with the D300 and D3. The D700 fills in a niche that was only occupied by the 5D so far......I don't know yet
Well, the Nikon is a "pro" body as far as build quality and feature set, the 5D really isn't. If you assume Canon's margins are equal or better to Nikon's, Canon has plenty of room to drop the price through the floor--especially if you look at the current asking price of the 5D. If the next 5D is a prosumer cam that retails where it is now for 2300-2500 USD or a pro body for 3000, they'll have a competitor. If they release another $3000 prosumer/wedding cam with slow AF (although, I manage to shoot gymnastics and volleyball with it just fine) and no weather sealing, they're going to let Nikon steal their market share for at least a generation (two+ years). They fell asleep at the wheel, and after the 1DIII fiasco, the 5D is where they're going to define the next couple of years for their photo business.
Oh and the 700D price won't fall by September because
1) Nikon can't afford it.
B) Only people at the Olympics and a handful of first buyers will have received one by then (On sale in July doesn't mean shipping in July).
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:55 am
by ForM
Just a passing thunderstorm.

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:43 am
by Giraffe }{unter
ForM wrote:Just a passing thunderstorm.
I would never get tired of those views you have.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:45 pm
by bork[e]
I bought a
After reading over some reviews and the technical aspects of it, I thought this to be a decent little camera for a complete newb. I've been wanting a camera that I could fully control as far as, well, all those neat little settings I can't ajust on my other camera. I'm still trying to figure out how to use all the
extras as well. :/
I was thinking about picking up one of
these later on maybe, once I figure more out about this camera... and how to actually take pictures. (all the pretty little details on the manual settings side of things).
Can anyone direct me to a site that explains like a "good picture taking technique" or whatever. Like wtf all these settings do and how to use them. Kodaks guide on how to use this is a fucking joke.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:19 am
by Tsakali
saturn wrote:The Eurodam Cruiseship from the Holland America Line. I think it has some 2100 beds. It was docked for a few days in Rotterdam, what a massive boat.
cruiseship image
even a newb can tell the lighting in this picture sux
woot
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:30 am
by Fanatic X
we have a critic
woot
someone should start a mini photo competition. should be fun.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:37 am
by saturn
Tsakali wrote:
even a newb can tell the lighting in this picture sux
woot
I can take judgment and critic that has some form of thought about my photos. It's alright to me if you don't like it, but expressing it with "newb", "sux", "woot" is like hearing a six-year old talking. Very eloquent, Tzatziki.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:00 am
by +JuggerNaut+
tsakali

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:49 am
by Grandpa Stu
well there still is some merrit to the post. it does seem a bit overexposed but without that a lot of other detail would be lost. i think that would be a prime canidate for a hdr photo.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:00 am
by Tsakali
saturn wrote:Tsakali wrote:
even a newb can tell the lighting in this picture sux
woot
I can take judgment and critic that has some form of thought about my photos. It's alright to me if you don't like it, but expressing it with "newb", "sux", "woot" is like hearing a six-year old talking. Very eloquent, Tzatziki.
fair enough, the position and scene you chose looks great, but i feel like the ship's light and water reflections are filtered down for some reason...feels like it should be much more vibrant...I'm having a hard time imagining actually being there and seeing the ship in that way.
ps
maybe because they come off too yellow ,maybe it's the actual light bulbs...murky water?

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:46 am
by MaCaBr3
Pff my camera is in the Canon repair center since 3 weeks and average repair time is like 5 weeks or something...
I started getting front or back focus...
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:49 pm
by saturn
Tsakali wrote:
fair enough, the position and scene you chose looks great, but i feel like the ship's light and water reflections are filtered down for some reason...feels like it should be much more vibrant...I'm having a hard time imagining actually being there and seeing the ship in that way.
ps
maybe because they come off too yellow ,maybe it's the actual light bulbs...murky water?

That's more like it. This is feedback I can use something I'll probably incorporate next time when I process a photo in Lightroom.
Background of the shot:
It's a nightshot composed with a manual focus lens of 24 mm, diaphragm set at f/11 which required about 30 seconds of exposure, that's why the water looks so murky. Then I played around in Lightroom and changed the temperature (which is quite more yellow and orange because of the lights) of the photo and added some high contrast settings to acquire some kind dreaminess to the atmosphere.
This isn't your taste as you expressed so nicely before. I'll see if I can upload a different version that's more true to what you really would see if you would stand there.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:50 pm
by saturn
MaCaBr3 wrote:Pff my camera is in the Canon repair center since 3 weeks and average repair time is like 5 weeks or something...
I started getting front or back focus...
I'm feeling your loss

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:08 pm
by saturn
Fancy version
Same photo, same shutterspeed/exposure, less contrast, still yellow/orange, less fancy processing.

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:47 am
by Κracus
pic I took with a cheapo camera from the park down from my apartment.

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:54 am
by ForM
Κracus wrote:pic I took with a cheapo camera from the park down from my apartment.
That ain't POT.
Just an observation.
Pron! for the few of you.
Or
It's Not Another Dirty Window

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:22 am
by Tsakali
saturn wrote:Fancy version
fancy img
Same photo, same shutterspeed/exposure, less contrast, still yellow/orange, less fancy processing.
less fancy img
in hindsight I can "see what you did there" and why you did it...the fancy one looks like a better candidate for a postcard yet the second one feels more natural. I understand that images take on their own life, and it usually works out for the better, but maybe not so much in this scene. For what it's worth I don't see how you could improve on it. Though shot.
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:46 am
by Fanatic X
Critique this

Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:19 am
by andyman
Too much atmosphere! where is that?
Re: PHOTOS PLEASE
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:00 am
by MKJ
ditch the vignette