Explosions in London subway, several casualties

Post by **rep** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:14 pm

Oxy'cutem.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:31 pm

ditto...

Post by **R00k** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:02 am

Prime Minister told Israeli officials not to give interviews about the bombings.

Post by **Dave** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:05 am

R00k wrote:Prime Minister told Israeli officials not to give interviews about the bombings.

Not that I care about the post to debate its meaning, but which Prime Minister? Who's the source?

Post by **seremtan** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:09 am

i've decided not to bother reading/watching any more news about this until something like facts start emerging. at the moment it's all speculation and pundits jumping on a variety of bandwagons

Post by **seremtan** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:10 am

Dave wrote:which Prime Minister?

take a wild guess

Post by **Dave** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am

seremtan wrote:
Dave wrote:which Prime Minister?
take a wild guess

Shouldn't have to...

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:31 am

yes it was the Jews.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:32 am

could you fucks please make sure you capitalize the word Jew from now on ?

thanks a lot. really.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:39 am

I said something that violated policy here, and I truly apologize.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:40 am

Freakaloin wrote:This joke is not appropriate

yes

the pizzas weren't told/didn't tell about the terrorist attacks

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:39 am

Again, I apologize.

Post by **DRuM** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 am

Ryoki wrote:I was talking to rep

sorry

Post by **DRuM** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:48 am

Doombrain wrote:yeah, glad you're OK, big nose

Thanks. Most people are pretty caring on here when it really comes down to it. :icon17:

Post by **Nightshade** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:42 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:yes it was the Jews.

You know, you make fun, but it really IS Israel at the heart of a lot of this shit. And the first person to point that out is tarred and featherd as an anit-semite.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:30 pm

Nightshade wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:yes it was the Jews.
You know, you make fun, but it really IS Israel at the heart of a lot of this shit. And the first person to point that out is tarred and featherd as an anit-semite.

I make fun because Israel gets called on ridiculous shit like the Israelis warned/ were warned about the attacks and everyone ignores the real shit that they are responsible for.

imo a better case can be made for the Saudi's having more sway over American policy than Israel but somehow certain people always seemed focused on Israel and a belief that they are calling all the shots.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:39 pm

Would you care to tell me which shit exactly Israel is at the heart of? Are you saying Al Quaeda would end it's war if the U.S. cut off aid to Israel but kept it's presence in Afghanistan and or Iraq? Are you saying the UK got bombed because of Israel?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:48 pm

Freakaloin wrote:yeah and pizzas don't scream when u put em in the oven...

tars and feathers as an anti-semite

Post by **R00k** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:55 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Nightshade wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:yes it was the Jews.
You know, you make fun, but it really IS Israel at the heart of a lot of this shit. And the first person to point that out is tarred and featherd as an anit-semite.
I make fun because Israel gets called on ridiculous shit like the Israelis warned/ were warned about the attacks and everyone ignores the real shit that they are responsible for.

imo a better case can be made for the Saudi's having more sway over American policy than Israel but somehow certain people always seemed focused on Israel and a belief that they are calling all the shots.

I would never say "The Jews" are responsible for anything. Some Israeli Zionists on the other hand, are deceptive and manipulative. Coupled with the amount of our tax dollars that are given to them in aid; and our greedy, supplicant professional politicians in Washington who let them spend it on lobbying and influencing our policies, it does cause problems.

I never said they were responsible for the bombings though. I'm just posting some articles I came across. I don't think it's impossible that they knew about it, especially knowing how well their spy services work over here. :icon8:
But I don't think, or have any reason to, that they had anything to do with the actual bombings.

As far as the Saudis, they probably have as much control over our country right now, but in a more indirect economic sense. Israel, it's turning out, has had a lot more direct control over our foreign policy than anybody really wanted to realize.

Anyway. Of course I'm sorry for any Brits who were affected by this, and I wasn't trying to hijack the topic or anything.

Post by **R00k** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:58 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Would you care to tell me which shit exactly Israel is at the heart of? Are you saying Al Quaeda would end it's war if the U.S. cut off aid to Israel but kept it's presence in Afghanistan and or Iraq? Are you saying the UK got bombed because of Israel?

You don't think Israel had anything to do with our decision to invade Iraq?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:16 pm

I think if you take Israel out of the equation they still invade (although I do wonder exactly how strong that neocon Israel lobby is)

The invasion of Iraq was/is about making money and 'American security' imo

translation of 'American Security'- the ability now and into the future to exercise power and make money

edit: keep in mind that Iraq was not a real secuirty threat to Israel. Yes Saddam paid $25000 to the suicide bombers but the bombers are doing it for martyrdom and or revenge, the money didn't really matter.

and the missiles from Iraq, into Israel issue is a bugaboo

edit #2: thought I'd add this as a simple illustration to my point....

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?c ... 0588&par=0

Baghdad, 8 July (AKI) - Eleven oil fields in southern Iraq, capable of boosting the country's production to three million barrels a day will soon be tendered to international investors, the Iraqi oil ministry announced Friday. "The ministry needs legislation which will allow it to fix international work criteria with companies that are involved in petroleum investments," said the ministry's spokesman, Asim Jihad.

"Iraq needs capital investments to develop its petroleum industry, he said, adding that the government had estimated that some 25 billion dollars in investments were required to boost oil production to 5-6 million barrels a day.

Jihad also said that the government has no intention to privatise the oil sector, but would remain under state control.

"We will seek foreign investments, that will allow us to develop our industry but without paving the way for foreign monopolies to take over," he said.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:13 pm

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic ... NCE-DC.XML

Note how they stick to the official line that this is an attack by terrorists, even as evidence continues to mount of an inside job, with the bus cameras conveniently not working, military explosives, the desperate spin why they are looking for "white" perpetrators, and of course the warning to Netanyahu

Post by **PHILAMONSTER** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:18 pm

jewsus christ, get down off that cross!

Post by **PHILAMONSTER** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:18 pm

i am a terrorist in training

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:30 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Would you care to tell me which shit exactly Israel is at the heart of? Are you saying Al Quaeda would end it's war if the U.S. cut off aid to Israel but kept it's presence in Afghanistan and or Iraq? Are you saying the UK got bombed because of Israel?

Wolfowitz, Perle, etc., etc. Go read through Raimondo's columns and you'll see that the American government is infested with Zionists. They don't even try to hide it. Clinton's administration was the same way, and Clinton was a rabid supporter of Israel.
I have nothing against Jews, I just can't stand their government. USS Liberty anyone?
I don't know why London was bombed, I don't know that Al Qaeda had anything to do with it. I also don't believe that we would have invaded Iraq if the entire Israel situation didn't exist, because I don't think that we invaded simply for oil. It was a large part of it, but not the whole reason. And as far as "American security" being a reason, there is no "American security" in the Middle East. It's Israel's security.

edit: Just read the last line of your later post. That makes sense, at least as far as securing oil resources goes. My point is that Israel's security is a prime concern for the US, which fucking irritates me.