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If you buy a Worcester boiler in the UK your talking 1500 quid alone. Some piece of shit will cost you in the region of 700 bucks.

Dunno what gramps is talking about, but a good condensing boiler for central heating and warm water easily costs €1500+ here.

Aye, and the tanks don't cost much less, prolly just shy of 500-1k without fixtures and fittings.

Gramps is from Florida, right? Maybe central heating isn't as big a thing there as it is here due to the warmer weather? Maybe that explains the huge price difference, because he would only need something to heat a bit of water when taking a shower. Having said that, modern boilers are equipped with all sorts of technological bells and whistles which put them quite a bit beyond a simple water heater.

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also note that Whiskey is probably talking Australian dollars. 1 AUD = 0.80 USD

Aye I realised this which is why I mentioned water tanks, Whisks got a big un too.

He hasn't got a fucking clue. He has no concept of anything out of Florida.

Boilers aren’t as common here. We have a separate unit for heating (forced air) and we usually heat our water with standalone tanks. There are definitely other systems but it’s probably the most common in modern single family homes.

Doombrain wrote:He hasn't got a fucking clue. He has no concept of anything out of Florida.

Look how angry NoBrain is...

I did ask for confirmation on what type "system" and then clarified "here" as my bases for comment.

Cheer up nerd.

He’s right though. You assumed 2k was steep. It might’ve been a bargain for his location and type of system. It was short sighted.

shaft wrote:He’s right though. You assumed 2k was steep. It might’ve been a bargain for his location and type of system. It was short sighted.

I assumed it was high based on what we do "here". But I also asked for clarification that still hasn't been provided. If my assumption is incorrect, then it's incorrect. No big deal, sport.

A 315 liter system does seem over sized for a retired couple. But then again, I don't know Whiskey's living situation.

So Gwamps has gone from thinking Whisk was buying a cheap american system to assuming he doesnt need 300+ litres

YourGrandpa wrote:A 315 liter system does seem over sized for a retired couple.

Why would you assume 315 liter is oversized if its a boiler system and not just being used for hot water?

i don't think gwamps is familiar with the concept of radiators, hence his confusion

shaft wrote:

YourGrandpa wrote:A 315 liter system does seem over sized for a retired couple.

Why would you assume 315 liter is oversized if its a boiler system and not just being used for hot water?

I'm not assuming he has a boiler system. But wouldn't we both be assuming at this point?

I hear children squabbling so please ensure they take their pills regularly.

losCHUNK wrote:Aye I realised this which is why I mentioned water tanks, Whisks got a big un too.

shaft wrote:He’s right though. You assumed 2k was steep. It might’ve been a bargain for his location and type of system. It was short sighted.

I understand product/labour prices are proportional to many variables. I recon I paid the going rate here. I know this because last night I had dinner with an old school classmate (of 45 years ago) and so in supporting evidence I will advise that he recently had his hot water system (heater) replaced for near $3K. He even installed a somewhat smaller unit but did have some taps and cisterns serviced. He lives about 200 kilometres (120 miles) south and in a low housing unit where as I a few floors above ground

So what kind of "system" did you get?

YourGrandpa wrote:So what kind of "system" did you get?

THERMANN brand... Wait .... http://www.thermann.com.au/products/lar ... ic-storage

Note the AU extension on the website

Last day of the company skitrip.
Office parties usually get pretty crazy but the last few were relatively tame. That has been corrected the last few days
Fully paid for champagne room access? Sure why not.

Look a like Gramps was right on both counts.

MKJ wrote:Last day of the company skitrip.
Office parties usually get pretty crazy but the last few were relatively tame. That has been corrected the last few days
Fully paid for champagne room access? Sure why not.

Fingers crossed MKJ

Reminds me somewhat of the day years ago now when word came around the call centre (employed maybe 75 including management) that call traffic would be switched to another national call centre and all staff were to attend a special meeting for a management announcement.

I knew it was bad news when persons I'd never seen before were handing out small boxes of tissues as we entered

The management news was that the company was closing the entire centre at the end of the month and that we were all redundant. The only good news was that we could apply for a similar job 2 floors down doing much the same work......

To Be Continued..............

Whiskey 7 wrote:

YourGrandpa wrote:So what kind of "system" did you get?

THERMANN brand... Wait .... http://www.thermann.com.au/products/lar ... ic-storage

Looks like you got taken for a bit... I don't know how many people live in your house. But unless it's 5 or more you don't need a 315 L system. If it's just you and the missus a 160 L would have been more than enough. The prices you are looking at are full retail. I can assure you the contractor's mark-up was 40 to 50%. So the more he sells the more he makes. And to charge you another $1K to install it was icing on the cake. Did the contractor have to pull a permit? Maybe that cost and hassle has a value to you. But you and a friend could have probably done it for around $850 au. Because it's a relatively easy DIY project.

Thanks for your thoughts YourGrandpa but you may have missed my comments above and inserted below...

I understand product/labour prices are proportional to many variables. I recon I paid the going rate here. I know this because last night I had dinner with an old school classmate (of 45 years ago) and so in supporting evidence I will advise that he recently had his hot water system (heater) replaced for near $3K. He even installed a somewhat smaller unit but did have some taps and cisterns serviced. He lives about 200 kilometres (120 miles) south and in a low housing unit where as I a few floors above ground

Here we require licensed trades-persons to work on electrical and plumbing installations and unlicensed activity can result in fines and or a court appearance

Look, I appreciate [s]it is[/s] could be a easy project to do oneself but for one, I do not have a trade account to buy wholesale and really I do prefer someone else do the work and warranty concerns just maybe........

I hadn't mentioned but the relief valve failed on install and that required a THERMANN company employee to come out and check the valve in situ. He did within 2 hours and replaced it. ** It was faulty!

Goodness knows what he would have done if I'd told him I bought the system and me and my mate installed it. I suggest he would have summoned a plumbing inspector out to my apartment and I would be getting a monetary fine for my troubles and then still require a licensed plumber and electrician to rectify the installation even if nothing appeared amiss.

Maybe one might could get away with dodgy work practices out in the sticks but not in suburbia, here or in the good old US of A. Maybe too if you were au fait with Australian regulations you might understand better, still thanks for your thoughts.

** I asked didn't they check after manufacture and he said no, they are mass produced and the failure rate is low so they don't bother with 'quality' checks

Are you saying you're not allowed to work on your own home in Australia?

The warranty on the water heater would have covered any defects.

That entire explanation, though it might help you feel better about your purchase, doesn't answer the question why you bought such a large water heater.

Jesus Christ.

Putting the screws on Whisk cos he bought a water heater at the going rate