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I never said that. An agnostic does not put faith into anything, he keeps an open mind.

I'm saying a self proclaimed agnostic such as yourself, who has doubts in a hypothetical situation you described is more of a christian than an agnostic.

last reply btw, gonna recharge my keyboard and drink coffee

t'was fun ey

edit 1 Ryoki, huge debate there about belief, and what constitutes belief. Does a tiny bit really situate someone in a faith? I dont think so, according to Christian doctrine, satan believes in the existance of God, your definition would leave satan in the unfomfortable position of being a christian...

ps enjoy ur coffee

edit2 I cant type tonight that toook ages

Ryoki wrote:I never said that. An agnostic does not put faith into anything, he keeps an open mind.

I'm saying a self proclaimed agnostic such as yourself, who has doubts in a hypothetical situation you described is more of a christian than an agnostic.

I said perhaps I am a weak Atheist, somewhere between an Atheist and an Agnostic or an Agnostic. One thing I certainly am not is a Christian. An Atheist is someone who, while not believing there is a God, keeps an open mind - therefore entertains the possibility that there could perhaps be "something out there". Which is precisely the way I feel. This according to your earlier post, constitutes Christianity, and not merely making someone more of a Christian than an Agnostic as you're trying to say now.

ek wrote:

busetibi wrote:when you die, you're dead.
thats it, this is not some sort of trial.
yes i would do it, without a seconds hesitation.

How do you know though?

its what i believe 100%.
if im wrong, ill come back and haunt/stalk you

Law wrote:For a sum of money, let's say $2000, would you take part in a Satanic ritual where you allow a group of Satanists (who are well noted and respected in the Satanic community - not just a couple of kiddies with ouija boards) to perform a ritual on you (no physical harm would come to you or any other person invloved in the ritual) which would allegedly give Satan complete ownership of your soul and ensure that when you die you spend eternity suffering in hell?

don't worry about it. every law student has to do that when they graduate, and you'll earn the 2k back quickly enough.

lol

You're going to fail miserably as a lawyer.

Thanks for your input.

No problem, just remember, you heard it here first.

Nightshade wrote:No problem, just remember, you heard it here first.

Actually I think I pointed it out first here. No doubt others have already told him irl too.

Nightshade wrote:No problem, just remember, you heard it here first.

I'll do my best, but most likely I'll soon forget that someone on the internet tried to predict what would happen in my life in 3 years time.

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

Nightshade wrote:No problem, just remember, you heard it here first.

Actually I think I pointed it out first here. No doubt others have already told him irl too.

It would seem everyone else is as confident in my abilities as I am, sorry to dissapoint.

your scenario makes a lot of assumptions, such as the assumption that if there's a god, there must be a satan, and that the eschatology of various desert religions is basically correct

It's certainly something to ponder.

Law wrote:

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

Nightshade wrote:No problem, just remember, you heard it here first.

Actually I think I pointed it out first here. No doubt others have already told him irl too.

It would seem everyone else is as confident in my abilities as I am, sorry to dissapoint.

Your spelling sucks too.

So does your trolling.

As long as you realize you spelled disappoint wrong.

Yep cheers for that.

Law wrote:So does your trolling.

See, what you're too thick to grasp here is that everytime someone posts an effective counter-argument, you write it off as a troll.
I'd love to see you try that in court.

Defense Counsel: "Your honor, my client couldn't possibly have shot the victim, as he has no arms."

Law the Horribly Shitty Lawyer: "YOUR HONOR! THE DEFENSE COUNSEL IS TOTALLY TROLLING ME! MAKE HIM STOP!"

Law wrote:For a sum of money, let's say $2000, would you take part in a Satanic ritual where you allow a group of Satanists (who are well noted and respected in the Satanic community - not just a couple of kiddies with ouija boards) to perform a ritual on you (no physical harm would come to you or any other person invloved in the ritual) which would allegedly give Satan complete ownership of your soul and ensure that when you die you spend eternity suffering in hell?

lol where do I sign up?

Nightshade wrote:

Law wrote:So does your trolling.

See, what you're too thick to grasp here is that everytime someone posts an effective counter-argument, you write it off as a troll.
I'd love to see you try that in court.

Defense Counsel: "Your honor, my client couldn't possibly have shot the victim, as he has no arms."

Law the Horribly Shitty Lawyer: "YOUR HONOR! THE DEFENSE COUNSEL IS TOTALLY TROLLING ME! MAKE HIM STOP!"

I hope you can truly grasp how worthless your opinion on my impending career is to me.

Seriously though any atheist that awnsers this question otherwise isn't an ahteist at heart. If there's any doubt in your mind as to the existance of god then obviously you're still going over some obstacles in your mind as to the nature of reality. I've seen some pretty intense shit over the last couple of weeks let me tell you but none of it has convinced me of there being a god. In fact, it's only cemented the fact that there isn't one.

But my point is, for 2000 bucks for a couple hours of idiots going on about satan owning my soul is fucking great.

It'd be like winning a battle you know? two millenia and more they've been getting our money and making us their slaves over some stupid idea and FINALY me, as an atheist I'd have the chance to laugh at the whole absurdity of it all AND THEY pay ME? Man that's wicked, that'd be worth it alone, just the fact that I got religion to give me money in the name of it's own beleifs, even if it is satanic.

The gratification I'd get from that alone would beat whatever I'd do with the money.

Law wrote:

Nightshade wrote:

Law wrote:So does your trolling.

See, what you're too thick to grasp here is that everytime someone posts an effective counter-argument, you write it off as a troll.
I'd love to see you try that in court.

Defense Counsel: "Your honor, my client couldn't possibly have shot the victim, as he has no arms."

Law the Horribly Shitty Lawyer: "YOUR HONOR! THE DEFENSE COUNSEL IS TOTALLY TROLLING ME! MAKE HIM STOP!"

I hope you can truly grasp how worthless your opinion on my impending career is to me.

Nightshade's a retard, everyone knows that just an fyi.

Of course Kracus, of course.

That really is a complement coming from you, the dolt that hopes to one day rise from the depths of abject idiocy to the lofty heights of retard.