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i would vote for your mom

I guess it might not matter anyway. wtf?

Ohio Voting Problems Deemed Severe
By Connie Mabin
The Associated Press

Tuesday 15 August 2006

Cleveland - Problems with elections in Ohio's most populous county are so severe that it's unlikely they can be completely fixed by November, or even by the 2008 presidential election, a report commissioned by Cuyahoga County and released Tuesday says.

A nonprofit group hired to review the county's first election with new electronic voting machines found several problems with the May 2 primary, the results of which were delayed six days because roughly 18,000 absentee ballots had to be hand counted.

The absentee ballots had been improperly formatted for new optical scan voting machines. Poll workers also had problems operating the machines, some poll workers didn't show up, vote memory cards disappeared and one precinct opened hours late. Researchers also found that the four sources used to keep track of vote totals on machines did not always add up.

"The election system in its entirety exhibits shortcomings with extremely serious consequences, especially in the event of a close election," wrote Steven Hertzberg, director of the study by the San Francisco-based Election Science Institute.

The report, part of a $341,000 review ordered by county commissioners, suggests that the county revamp poll worker training, develop a plan to ensure all electronic votes are counted in the case of a manual count and consider adding machines to avoid long lines that might scare voters away.

An official with the maker of the voting machines, North Canton-based Diebold Inc., said the report was flawed because the researchers did not properly review electronic votes in some cases.

Mark Radke, director of marketing for Diebold subsidiary Diebold Election Systems, also blamed inadequately trained poll workers, saying the totals didn't always add up because some changed memory cards without also changing the paper receipt rolls.

County elections chief Michael Vu said he could not comment on the report until Diebold and ESI worked out any issues. Then he wants ESI to present its findings to the elections board "so that we can make an informed decision to the report as a whole."

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Associated Press Writer M.R. Kropko contributed to this report

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:I guess it might not matter anyway. wtf?

Ohio Voting Problems Deemed Severe
By Connie Mabin
The Associated Press

Tuesday 15 August 2006

Cleveland - Problems with elections in Ohio's most populous county are so severe that it's unlikely they can be completely fixed by November, or even by the 2008 presidential election, a report commissioned by Cuyahoga County and released Tuesday says.

A nonprofit group hired to review the county's first election with new electronic voting machines found several problems with the May 2 primary, the results of which were delayed six days because roughly 18,000 absentee ballots had to be hand counted.

The absentee ballots had been improperly formatted for new optical scan voting machines. Poll workers also had problems operating the machines, some poll workers didn't show up, vote memory cards disappeared and one precinct opened hours late. Researchers also found that the four sources used to keep track of vote totals on machines did not always add up.

"The election system in its entirety exhibits shortcomings with extremely serious consequences, especially in the event of a close election," wrote Steven Hertzberg, director of the study by the San Francisco-based Election Science Institute.

The report, part of a $341,000 review ordered by county commissioners, suggests that the county revamp poll worker training, develop a plan to ensure all electronic votes are counted in the case of a manual count and consider adding machines to avoid long lines that might scare voters away.

An official with the maker of the voting machines, North Canton-based Diebold Inc., said the report was flawed because the researchers did not properly review electronic votes in some cases.

Mark Radke, director of marketing for Diebold subsidiary Diebold Election Systems, also blamed inadequately trained poll workers, saying the totals didn't always add up because some changed memory cards without also changing the paper receipt rolls.

County elections chief Michael Vu said he could not comment on the report until Diebold and ESI worked out any issues. Then he wants ESI to present its findings to the elections board "so that we can make an informed decision to the report as a whole."

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Associated Press Writer M.R. Kropko contributed to this report

Awesome...I'm sure Blackwell is working hard to correct the situation too...

demand a paper ballot

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:demand a paper ballot

I actually had paper in 04. I voted in some church in BFE. I was actually upset about voting in a church but whatever, it's not like they were doing anything particularly churchy.

I had paper, too.

rgoer wrote:haha don't give me lol russ would be awesome

the man is a mixed bag at best

He also voted against the Iraq war, and holds a few other desirable positions. The reason he's a mixed bag is because he's a characteristic democrat on economic issues (even supporting universal healthcare).

rgoer wrote:... which puts him head and shoulders above anybody else mentioned in this thread

He's probably the best of the crop mentioned here. To check his economic tendencies it might be wise to pair him up with Jeff Flake on a mixed ticket, where Feingold is VP of course.

Hillary. Maybe a woman president is a good change.

Fuck the Bush's.

GreXican wrote:Hillary. Maybe a woman president is a good change.

Fuck the Bush's.

stdgeneral?

bitWISE wrote:

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:demand a paper ballot

I actually had paper in 04. I voted in some church in BFE. I was actually upset about voting in a church but whatever, it's not like they were doing anything particularly churchy.

I wouldn't put much thought into making it a religious issue. Just about every town or city has at least one church. And since usually churches are some of the older buildings, they tend to be in the heart of cities and towns and most people know where they are. Same reasons why a lot of people go to schools to vote.

And votes are miscounted, boxes are stuffed, votes are conveniently lost, etc - both parties do it. Hell, they don't even count them in most inner cities where most of the population is black or hispanic. It doesn't matter if it's paper or not. There's no changing it because both parties know the other one is going to. And yeah, I use "both" because you're fooling yourself if you think a national election is anything more.

bitWISE wrote:

GreXican wrote:Hillary. Maybe a woman president is a good change.

Fuck the Bush's.

stdgeneral?

Yeah man new name, sup

GreXican wrote:

bitWISE wrote:

GreXican wrote:Hillary. Maybe a woman president is a good change.

Fuck the Bush's.

stdgeneral?

Yeah man new name, sup

welcome back dude

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Hillary versus Jeb.

who would you vote for?

I'll vote for the one the illuminati wants me to vote for...

It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people that count the votes.

Yes, and I suppose counting votes matters when they're the same person?

I was paraphrasing The Man (Stalin).

So there, ey.